Hellkite Shipyard

[Majestic]

Nice squad you've got assembling there.

 

[Hellkite]

Thanks Maj

Yep it a nice grouping of the fighters/bombers/ suportcraft for WWRPG if I ever get it up and running

 

[CABAL]

The size chart is quite nice to have. This reminds me, do you have any plans for a smaller carrier for when Starfleet doesn't need the obscene force projection of the Seraphim?

 

[Hellkite]

obscene you say LOL

Is that a request ?

 

[CABAL]

Well, I suppose the attending carrier group is what pushes it over the edge, for the average scale Star Trek battle, anyway. But yeah, that would be pretty cool.

 

[Hellkite]

Ark Royal Light carrier

a Light 'through-deck"carrier
Aircraft carried: 50–60
511.25m​

 

[kjc733]

obscene you say LOL

There's no such thing as overkill.

Ark Royal Light carrier

a Light 'through-deck"carrier
Aircraft carried: 50–60
511.25m​

"Light" carrier.... with 50 - 60 craft... really

 

[Hellkite]

Yes! really I took the number from the real HMS Ark Royal

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HMS Ark Royal (pennant number 91) was an light aircraft carrier of the Royal Navy that served during the Second World War.

HMS Ark Royal was the first ship on which the hangars and flight deck were an integral part of the hull, instead of an add-on or part of the superstructure. Designed to carry a large number of aircraft, she had two hangar deck levels. She served during a period that first saw the extensive use of naval air power; a number of carrier tactics were developed and refined aboard Ark Royal.

Aircraft carried:

72 (designed) 50–60 (actual)


Source : Naval Service of the British Armed Forces
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[kjc733]

Hmmm. Around the start of WWII everyone lied about their carrier sizes and pulled every trick they could to downgrade the tonnage - twas against the rules to have too many carriers.
I was thinking of more modern examples, where a Nimitz with a crew of 6000 also has an airwing of around 70 a/c. The new QEII class (should be Ark Royal) will have somewhere in the ballpark of 40 - 60 (assuming we can scrape that many airframes together). Lusty only had about a dozen Harriers if I recall - but then that was a "Through deck cruiser"

 

[Hellkite]

Nimitz class Aircraft carries:85–90 fixed wing and up to 3 helicopters

-USN data sheet

 

[CABAL]

Yes! really I took the number from the real HMS Ark Royal

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HMS Ark Royal (pennant number 91) was an light aircraft carrier of the Royal Navy that served during the Second World War.

HMS Ark Royal was the first ship on which the hangars and flight deck were an integral part of the hull, instead of an add-on or part of the superstructure. Designed to carry a large number of aircraft, she had two hangar deck levels. She served during a period that first saw the extensive use of naval air power; a number of carrier tactics were developed and refined aboard Ark Royal.

Aircraft carried:

72 (designed) 50–60 (actual)


Source : Naval Service of the British Armed Forces
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According to Wikipedia, Invincible-class light carriers, such as the HMS Ark Royal, carried 22 aircraft. The American Independence-class and Saipan-class light carriers field 33 and 42 aircraft, respectively. It also says that the USS Enterprise supercarrier, the Kitty Hawk-class supercarriers, and the Nimitz-class supercarriers, usually carried between 60 and 90 aircraft. Fleet carriers have anywhere between 33 and 90 with the UK fielding the least and the US fielding the most.

On the whole, designations seem to depend on the relative number of aircraft supported, rather than the absolute number. If the Seraphim is a supercarrier, then it makes sense to me that the Ark Royal could be a light carrier in the same fleet. If the designations are relative, then the Klingons or Romulans may consider the Ark Royal to be a fleet carrier or up if their light carriers use fewer spacecraft.

Hmmm. Around the start of WWII everyone lied about their carrier sizes and pulled every trick they could to downgrade the tonnage - twas against the rules to have too many carriers.

I thought there were only treaties limiting battleship and cruiser counts, hence the development of carriers.

 

[Hellkite]

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According to Wikipedia, Invincible-class light carriers, such as the HMS Ark Royal...

the Ark Royal was not a Invincible class it was it own Class that predated the Invincible-class

have a look you will see it noted as
Type:Unique aircraft carrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ark_Royal_(91)
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But you make a good point Cabal
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And remember that it dose not need dedicated launch and retrieval areas like the Nimitz class​

 

[CABAL]

the Ark Royal was not a Invincible class it was it own Class that predated the Invincible-class
have a look you will see it noted as
Type:Unique aircraft carrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ark_Royal_(91)​

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Well, that's confusing. According to the disambiguation page, the UK has had three different purpose built carriers named the HMS Ark Royal and is working on a fourth, plus another that was a merchant ship and converted to a carrier and a galleon.

 

[kjc733]

There have been many Ark Royals, the last of which was one of the Invincible class "ski jump" carriers. It was retired post 2010 SDSR and many believe (myself included) that one of the two new carriers should be called Ark Royal to keep the tradition going. Instead we're getting Queen Elizabeth II and Prince of Wales.

 

[Hellkite]

that why I include the (pennant number 91)

pennant numbers are like NCC for Royal Navy ships

 

[CABAL]

There have been many Ark Royals, the last of which was one of the Invincible class "ski jump" carriers. It was retired post 2010 SDSR and many believe (myself included) that one of the two new carriers should be called Ark Royal to keep the tradition going. Instead we're getting Queen Elizabeth II and Prince of Wales.

Prince Charles has apparently agreed to have the HMS Prince of Wales renamed the HMS Ark Royal.

 

[Hellkite]

that was over ruled by Parliament anyway Back to topic gentlemen

And remember that it dose not need dedicated launch and retrieval areas like the Nimitz class​

 

[CABAL]

I suppose this question also pertains to the Seraphim, but do the fighters and such use catapults or do they take off under their own power like shuttles?

 

[Hellkite]

Own power like shuttles

Cabal I just thought of a way to sum up these two


Think of the Seraphim as the Pride of Hiigara

with the
Role(s)

• 
  
  
  • Flagship
  • Shipyard / construction space born platforms
  • Carrier
  • Mobile refinery
  • Colony ship

Seraphim was meant to be Starfleet's premier extragalactic starship by build a foothold outside our galaxy

Ark Royal Light carrier is like e Kushan\Hiigara Carrier from HW 1

Role(s)

• 
  
  
  • Carrier
  • Minor fighter build and repair
  • Fleet support
  • Blockade Command ship

the Ark Royal is the mainline Carrie in day to day operations and the largest ship the can produce internally



LOL all I need now is a WW mod for Homeworld 2

 

[Hellkite]

Erinye class advanced superiority starfighter
Erinyes - Furies, were female chthonic deities of vengeance ; they were sometimes referred to as "infernal goddesses"

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I think Jetfreak- called it right "A natural evolution from the Gryphon"

Updated **​

 

[Hellkite]

Ruff profile

think I may need to as Jetfreak for help​

 

[Hellkite]

Long range surveyor / scout ship

A consept replacement for the Venture-class scout ship​

 

[Majestic]

Looks to be larger and more capable than it's predecessor.

 

[Hellkite]

Yep ! That she is she is around the size of 35 meters in Length so she more of a stand a lone ship than just a large Runabout unlike it's predecessor

 

[Zelph]

Hmmm, intriguing design. Seems like a good candidate for a police frigate? I like the idea of a few of these escorting a Soyuz-class cutter or the late-24th/early-25th century equivalent.

 

[Hellkite]

Maybe but I see it as having many sub configurations that are civilian /non starfleet

Think of it as the Serenity from Firefly or the Millennium Falcon kind of a jack of all trades ship

 

[Zelph]

Ah okay, good stuff. We need more of those in the Trek universe

 

[Hellkite]

Yep that it dose, and what would Professor Zelph head the English department of the University Alpha Centauri take on his yearly trip to The Globe Theatre.

 

[Hellkite]

Klingon D'noch bomber
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[Hellkite]

Well back the the Empire

Tor'ilvus Long range scout ship​