Hellkite Shipyard

[kjc733]

How do you find the time to do all of these??? I barely have time to keep up with looking at them all! Nice jobs all of them

 

[Hellkite]

Interesting in the fact that it isn't what one would expect from a Star Trek Federation ship. It reminds me a little of the Attack ship from Id4. It has has a similar feel to the Sabre which I rather like.

It's a great design mate, kudos for making an escort that isn't another Defiant predecessor but something that is new and original.

Thanks

I was trying to get away from another Defiant rehash. Don't get me wrong I love the Defiant class but there are a thousand and one rehashes of her out there" just look at "STO ".

How do you find the time to do all of these??? I barely have time to keep up with looking at them all! Nice jobs all of them

Thanks

Well you have tea time Kjc and well I do this instead in the hopes of engaging a certain number of ship wrights minds on this site

Fer de lance class tactical escort

Accommodation: 40 Officers and Crew

Classification: Escort [Defensive/Patrol/Reconnaissance]

Funding for Fer de lance class Class Development Project Provided by: Advanced Starship Design Bureau; United Federation of Planets Defense Council.

Development Project Started:2398

Production Start Date: 2401

Production End Date: Still in Production

Current Status: In Service

Locations of Fer de lance-Class Construction:

Utopia Planitia Fleet Yard, Mars
New Aberdeen Fleet Yard, Aldebarran
Copernicus Fleet Yard, Luna
San Francisco Fleet Yard, Earth


BASIC TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS :

ACCOMMODATION

Officers and Crew: 40 Officers and Crew
Evacuation Limit: 165

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length: 129.5 meters
Overall Draft: 125.2 meters
Overall Beam: 28.0 meters

PERFORMANCE

Cruise Speed: Warp 6
Maximum Velocity Warp 9.97 (12 hours maximum)
Quantum slipstream (3.2 hours maximum)

ARMAMENT

Standard - 4 Type XI phasers, 4 Pulse Phaser Cannons turreted , 2 torpedo burst launchers forward, 1 aft torpedo launchers

TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT

Shuttlecraft:

1 Type-9 Light Medium-Range Shuttlecraft

2 Type-16 Shuttlepods

2 Workbee-Type Maintenance Pods

Transporters:

One personnel

One cargo

Two emergency

 

[Hellkite]

Thoughts? Feed back on the stats

 

[Majestic]

Time for some feedback.

I quoted the parts that I wanted to address.

Locations of Fer de lance-Class Construction:

Utopia Planitia Fleet Yard, Mars
New Aberdeen Fleet Yard, Aldebarran
Utopia Planitia Fleet Yard, Mars
Copernicus Fleet Yard, Luna
San Francisco Fleet Yard, Earth

Just a typo here as you listed Utopia Planitia twice. Perhaps add Alpha Centauri and/or Andor as an additional location for production. Considering how small these ships are, I'd think many yards across the Federation would build these puppies.

Officers and Crew: 40 Officers and Crew
Evacuation Limit: 165

If memory serves the Defiant has 50 personnel and she was 120 meters, though there is some dispute in that size, some saying it was more like 180 meters. Either way I find the crew size works quite well. However I feel the evacuation limit is a tad high. With this, the total people onboard at max limit would be 205. I can't see how this would work, unless the shuttle bay is cleared and you store the refugees or whomever is being transported in there. Which brings me to my next point.

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length: 129.5 meters
Overall Draft: 125.2 meters
Overall Beam: 28.0 meters

TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT

Shuttlecraft:

1 Type-9 Light Medium-Range Shuttlecraft

2 Type-16 Shuttlepods

2 Workbee-Type Maintenance Pods

I see no issue with the dimensions, those are just quoted for reference.

I find the auxiliary craft compliment to be a little large for a ship so small. The Defiant had only only shuttle craft as we see it leave the bay in late season 6 and to be honest there was really no further room for addition craft. I know in "The Search" both Sisko/Bashir and Odo/Kira used shuttles. But I put that down to the fact that Sisko/Bashir were in that Vorta mind game while Odo and Kira actually did take the shuttle.

I would suggest that there only be one, maybe two maximum. I would go with the shuttlepods and dump the rest. Reason I suggest this is that in the image I see the shuttle bay and it does look larger then the one on the Defiant and so doubling the compliment of embarked craft would work for this design. Though having it any larger and then you'll have to consider a reduction in crew or weaponry as there needs to be room for all that, even small bunk rooms take up space.

 

[Hellkite]

Time for some feedback.

I quoted the parts that I wanted to address.

Just a typo here as you listed Utopia Planitia twice. Perhaps add Alpha Centauri and/or Andor as an additional location for production. Considering how small these ships are, I'd think many yards across the Federation would build these puppies.

Thanks for pointing out that typo my friend

I was thinking first Production order yards when Started listing yep I could see Starfleet fielding alot o them as well

If memory serves the Defiant has 50 personnel and she was 120 meters, though there is some dispute in that size, some saying it was more like 180 meters. Either way I find the crew size works quite well. However I feel the evacuation limit is a tad high. With this, the total people onboard at max limit would be 205. I can't see how this would work, unless the shuttle bay is cleared and you store the refugees or whomever is being transported in there. Which brings me to my next point.

the Defiant has 40
Officers and Crew and a max
evacuation Limit of 150 acording to the Star Trek Deep Space Nine Technical Manual LOL
I broke out and dusted of my old copy of it off the book shelf then I stared to set the stats of this ship for a base line
See SPOILER

I find the auxiliary craft compliment to be a little large for a ship so small. The Defiant had only only shuttle craft as we see it leave the bay in late season 6 and to be honest there was really no further room for addition craft. I know in "The Search" both Sisko/Bashir and Odo/Kira used shuttles. But I put that down to the fact that Sisko/Bashir were in that Vorta mind game while Odo and Kira actually did take the shuttle.

I would suggest that there only be one, maybe two maximum. I would go with the shuttlepods and dump the rest. Reason I suggest this is that in the image I see the shuttle bay and it does look larger then the one on the Defiant and so doubling the compliment of embarked craft would work for this design. Though having it any larger and then you'll have to consider a reduction in crew or weaponry as there needs to be room for all that, even small bunk rooms take up space.

I was thinking along that lines to but

Defiant-Class Escort

Spoiler: Defiant-Class Escort

source Star Trek Deep Space Nine Technical Manual

ACCOMMODATION

Officers and Crew: 40
Evacuation Limit: 150

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length: 119.5 meters
Overall Draft: 90.3 meters
Overall Beam: 25.5 meters

PERFORMANCE

Maximum Velocity Warp: 9.982 (12 hours maximum)

ARMAMENT

Standard - 4 Pulse Phaser Cannons, 2 forward torpedo launchers, 2 aft torpedo launchers
Uprated - 4 Pulse Phaser Cannons, 1 forward torpedo launcher, 2 aft torpedo launchers

TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT

Shuttlecraft

• 
  
  • 4 Type-18 Shuttlepods
  • 2 Work Bees
  • 1 Type-10 Shuttlecraft

Transporters

• 
  
  
  • Two personnel
  • One cargo

She real dose have 4 Type-18 Shuttlepods in two secondary bays on deck 4 as well as four landing gear


Over all do you think the stats are about right for the Fer de lance-Class ? Not to over powered ?

 

[Majestic]

Seems like you did your research, I'm surprised that the Defiant would have that much room for that many auxiliary craft, but the tech manuals are considered canon if I recall.

As for armaments I think she is fine, she has to have a different weapon loadout otherwise why build her at all, instead of building just Defiants.

 

[CABAL]

It reminds me a little of the Attack ship from Id4.

I read that as 1d4. Clearly I've been playing too much NWN.

If memory serves the Defiant has 50 personnel and she was 120 meters, though there is some dispute in that size, some saying it was more like 180 meters.

The Defiant was whatever size looked best for the shot. At times it was little bigger than a runabout, at others it was almost as big as an Intrepid.

Anyway, stats look pretty good to me. Good job.

 

[pepperman]

HellKite, It's good to see those creative juices of yours are still flowing. You have so much talent to be sure. Since upgrading to Windows 7, I haven't even attempted to model anything and not even sure I could get the old version of Max to even cooperate. I still swing by from time to time and always take a peak at your work.

Been play STO and unfortunately, it has become way to addicting. lol

 

[USS_Excalibur]

Well, I would like to know if there are any foreseeable future openings for designs.

 

[Majestic]

Been play STO and unfortunately, it has become way to addicting. lol

Ain't it what, when you start playing it takes over. I'm pass that myself now but I remember those days fondly.

 

[Hellkite]

HellKite, It's good to see those creative juices of yours are still flowing. You have so much talent to be sure. Since upgrading to Windows 7, I haven't even attempted to model anything and not even sure I could get the old version of Max to even cooperate. I still swing by from time to time and always take a peak at your work.

Been play STO and unfortunately, it has become way to addicting. lol

Thank you Pepperman

Let hope that max works or the star empire would have lost one of it grates ship wrights in you Pepperman

Well, I would like to know if there are any foreseeable future openings for designs.

Always Excalibur in fact I'm always up for new challenge

 

[USS_Excalibur]

Always Excalibur in fact I'm always up for new challenge

I want to first ask which you'd be in the mood for. As of currently, I have:
- 1 Federation (TOS) Station Concept
- 2 Federation (Post-TNG) Runabout Concepts
- 1 Federation (Post-TNG) Starship
- 1 Klingon (TOS) Station Concept
- 2 Romulan (TMP/TLE) Station Concepts

 

[Hellkite]

I have some of these all ready

there is the ENT -TMP Romulan Starbace

Post Nemesis size comparison between the Two​

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TOS Klingon Outpost
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[Majestic]

That is one cool looking station Hellkite.

 

[Hellkite]

Thanks my friend

I was thinking what would the Klingons park 3.26 light years away from the station. K-7

 

[Majestic]

It would make a good boarder outpost for the TOS Klingons.

 

[USS_Excalibur]

Well, one federation Runabout concept I have uses a hull based off of the Manta Ray. The mouth would be a large deflector. The Cephalic Horns in front of it near the mouth would house Phaser Cannons. The gills would be Dauntless Style Intercoolers. There would be phaser arrays along the wing-like 'fins'. And on the dorsal fin near the tail, there would be a small torpedo pod that holds one front facing torpedo launcher and one rear facing torpedo launcher.

 

[Hellkite]

well I have thses

A updated Type 6 shuttlecraft for the USS Seraphim could be used as a runabout

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Paladin Class Runabout

Heavy Assault Runabout

Because sometimes you need to kick in the door even if there was no door there in the first place ​

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But here is a new one

I call her the

Walkabout Class Runabout

BASIC TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

ACCOMMODATION

Officers and Crew: 12-15
Evacuation Limit: 45

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length: 26.1 meters
Overall Draft: 5.9 meters
Overall Beam: 16.7. meters

PERFORMANCE

Full Impulse: .30c
Cruise Speed: Warp 6
Maximum Velocity Warp 6.7 (for twelve hours)

ARMAMENT

Standard - 6 Type V1 phaser arrays + 2 micro torpedo launcher


TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT

Transporters:

One standard 2-personnel

How dose it look ???

 

[Majestic]

Looks great my friend better than a bought one. It actually has nacelles similar to my Dawnstar redesign that I and Jetfreak did a number of years back. Would make a good companion to the class.

 

[Hellkite]

LOL

Kind of named it for you Maj. "Walkabout" and started to list it production yard as New South Wales Shuttle R&D

 

[Majestic]

Thanks Hellkite, I appreciate the thought.

 

[Hellkite]

Ananke Class time ship -temporal warship

USS Ananke
NCV-575499

Ship motto " What must be, must be"

Named for Ananke

In Greek mythology, Ananke (Ancient Greek: Ἀνάγκη, from the common noun ἀνάγκη, "force, constraint, necessity"), was the personification of destiny, necessity and fate, depicted as holding a spindle. She marks the beginning of the cosmos, along with Chronos. She was seen as the most powerful dictator of all fate and circumstance which meant that mortals, as well as the Gods, respected her and paid homage. Considered as the mother of the Fates according myth , she is the only one to have control over their decisions

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[Hellkite]

Chase Class

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- 1 Federation (TOS) Station Concept
- 2 Federation (Post-TNG) Runabout Concepts
- 1 Federation (Post-TNG) Starship
- 1 Klingon (TOS) Station Concept
- 2 Romulan (TMP/TLE) Station Concepts


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[Majestic]

Two mean looking ships you have there mate.

 

[Hellkite]

Thanks Maj
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Chase Class

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I see her as a Fast Scout Frigate as well as an (EW) ship attacking an enemy, or impede enemy assaults via the muti-spectrum jamming ,interspersing and corruption of data. for the express purposes of electronic warfare is to deny the opponent the advantage of, and ensure friendly unimpeded access to, objectives

Fog of war ElectronicWarfare Suite

Fog of war (EW ) Suite Capable of projecting /ghosting the warp independent signatures of a whole battle group as well a projecting Hologram decoys to mach just in-case a enemy was to get close enough to do a visual confirmation



ACCOMMODATION

Officers and Crew: 168
Evacuation Limit: 1500

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length: 322.56 meters
Overall Draft: 134.83 meters
Overall Beam: 54.22 meters

PERFORMANCE

Full Impulse: .40c
Cruise Speed: Warp 9.975
Maximum Warp Velocity 9.999976 (12 hours maximum)
Maximum Velocity Quantum slipstream drive

ARMAMENT

10 Type-XI phasers, 2 forward photon torpedo launchers, 2 aft torpedo launchers

TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT


Shuttlecraft

• Three Type-9 Medium Short-Range Shuttlecraft
• 1 Type-9A Cargo Shuttle
• 2 Type-18 Shuttlepods
• 2 Workbee-type Maintenance Pods.

Transporters

• Three Personnel
• Two Cargo
• Two Emergency

 

[Hellkite]

 

[Hellkite]

Broadhead Bomber

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BASIC TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

ACCOMMODATION

Officers and Crew:6

DIMENSIONS
Length: 43.5 m
Wingspan:23 m
Height: 9.4 m

PERFORMANCE

Full Impulse: .50c
Cruise Speed: Warp 9.75
Maximum Warp Velocity 9.999976 (12 hours maximum)

*Maximum Velocity Quantum slipstream drive (4 hours maximum)


ARMAMENT
2 Wing Mounted Phaser Arrays
2 Belly Mounted Pulse Phaser Cannon
2 Rear Mounted Phaser Array

bomb bay

2 rotary drop rack launchers (144 Hardpoints each)
**(in total 288 Hardpoints)**


TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT

Transporters

1 Personnel/ Cargo
1 Emergency

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Just to put it all to scale ​

 

[Chiletrek]

Hello:
I did mention in DeviantArt that I love the Ananke class. That ship is awesome, like Star Trek with some extra feel like inspiration from a Whitestar perhaps, the design works perfectly .

The latest pic, the comparison one is great, because it helps get the feel of the size of your ships. I like that a lot.

 

[Majestic]

I really like your design HK, though putting Slipstream on a bomber to me doesn't feel feasible and a little overkill. I also feel the warp velocities are a little high for a bomber. I personally would dump the slipstream and have a max warp of like 8 or 8.5 assuming this is a late 24, or 25th century design.

 

[Hellkite]

Thanks Maj

But I disagree my friend my reasoning is , she not a support craft and can not be carrier based do to her size but a stand a lone unit based planet side at a colony Airbase or at a Starbase. I feel she needs it in the 25th century war escapes a long range tactical prosperous built bomber would be ineffective

think of her as a small ship my friend