[Request] Cloud-class (Nebula-class Dreadnaught Variant)

[Timothyjmcneeley]

I was wondering if somebody could help me make a ship. I would like help making what I call a Cloud-class. A Cloud-class is a variant on the original Nebula-class design (w/ the heart-shaped pod). It is eccentiually a Nebula-class version of the Galaxy-X-class. Or, in other words, a Nebula-class version of the future Enterprise-D from All Good Things. It would have a third nacelle directly connected to the top of the heart pod, phaser strips on all 3 nacelles, the Assault Cannon connected directly underneath the saucer section. the 2 funny looking things on either side of the bridge, which I assume are Pulse Phaser Cannons. The slab of deck located directly behind the bridge, which I assume is where the Cloaking Device is located. Wing tips on the bottom 2 nacelle struts. Ship names would be named after known nebulaes both real world and Star Trek based. A picture depicting where all the HardPoints are located. I have an ODF written up for the Cloud-class. It would have the same special weapons as the existing Nebula-class and maybe the Borg's Interceptor's Transwarp drive pod (without the need to research it) or other Instant Drive to emulate the Warp 13 used in the show and a Federation Cloaking Device which was also used in the show. It would also have that high powered Cannon under the saucer which destroyed a Neg'var ship in 3 hits. It would have a high build cost because it being as powerful as it is. I have a specs list drawn up and an ODF drawn up. I even have a Furuta Japan model made up here at home. I would love to see this for A2 and I really hope one of the famous modelers here can help me make it. I just need the SOD and Textures. I can add my own weapons and ODF and sounds. I just need the basics to get it in game and I can mod it myself after that. I will make sure to give full credit to everyone involved if they were to help me. God this is a long posting isn't it? I think I'm running out of room. LOL LOL. Here is the Specs list I have imagined:

Nebula-Class Dreadnaught-Variant

Affiliation:
United Federation of Planets - Starfleet Command - Tactical Operations

Classification:
Dreadnaught

Service Period:
2370's - Present

Dimensions:
Length: 442.23m
Width: 318.11m
Height: 148.63m
Mass: 3,409,000 metric tonnes

Specifications:
Crew:
800 (250 Officers - 550 Enlisted Crew)

No. of Decks:
30

Propulsion:
Warp 9.985 (Tri-Nacelle Dual-Core Coaxial Warp Drive)
Hyper-Impulse Core (Full Impulse = 85% light speed)

Computer Systems:
Bio-Neural Gel Packs
Multi-Memory Computer Core (2 fully-functional independently operated computer cores)
EMH Mk-IV
LMH Mk-II
ECH Mk-II

Armaments:
12 Type-XII Phaser Banks
1 Type-II Phaser Cannon
2 Type-I Phaser Cannons (Pulse)
4 Quantum Torpedo Launchers
1 Type-II Phased Expansion Field
2 Tractor Beams

Defenses:
Deflector Shields
Regenerative Shields
Ablative Hull Plating
Shield Harmonics Disruptor
Point Defense LASER
Saucer Seperation Assault Mode

Auxiliary Craft:
1 Captain's Yacht
1 Delta-Class Flyer
1 Argo-Class Shuttlecraft (w/ buggy)
2 Type-XI Shuttlecrafts
2 Type-VIII Shuttlecrafts
4 Type-IX Shuttlecrafts
2 Yellowstone-Class Runabouts
4 Type-XVIII Shuttlepods
2 Inspection Pods
5 Work Bee-Type Maintenance Pods
1 Work Bee-Type Cargo Train

I have modifed a few things to try and make it more canon. For example: the standard max warp is in the high Warp 9's. Only in alternate realities have the Federation gone faster than Warp 10. For the game's sake I think 12 officers should be sufficient. 250 officers won't get very far!!! The Type-II Phased Expansion Field is eccentiually the Klingon's Repulsion Field colored the same as phasers. Included are some basic pictures to help you design such a ship. Well, I don't really know what else to say. So, if you or anybody you know can help me make this ship an A2 reality, . Thank you.

Email removed, please re-read the rules. - Majestic

 

[CptBenSisko]

no offense...but while its an interesting design..theres no way realisticly (in Trek terms) that the weapons pod pylon superstructure could bear the mass of a third warp nacelle and the weapons pod at the same time..sheering forces would tear the pylon off at warp 1 ...not to mention that there would be no space in the pylon and pod to run a warp power transfer conduit...youd be more likely to remove the pod and mount the third nacelle directly to the pylon it self..just as the Galaxy has it...of course you lose the weapons pod's photon capability...actually...more reasonable design would be to try and mount the weapons pod on the melbourne variant that has the two micro warp nacelles attached to it

 

[Majestic]

Timothyjmcneeley, you've been a member of MSFC long enough to know to not post email addresses in open forum. You may PM people your email address however. Due to this I have re-set your forum status and must re-read the rules and accept them before you can post again.

This rule is for your own protection and applies to everyone.

As for the ship, I agree with CaptBenSisko, it's a recipe for disaster at warp. The model could be easily done using one of the existing models of the Nebula class out there, however permission would needed to be gained to edit/kitbash the model. I think a better alternative would be as Ben suggested, remove the pod and have the third nacelle in it's place or not have the nacelle and just have the other additions added only.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Sorry, guv! It's been so long, I plum forgot. But thank you for reminding me.

I'm not to worried about realism or practicallity, its just a design I really like. And I would like to see it made. But everytime I have EVER tried creating my own ship from scratch, well lets just say reading ancient chinese algebra would probabily be easier for me!!!

 

[Majestic]

Timothy, if you can get permission from Aad Moerman (Moerman on the Filefront Forums) to kitbash his Nebula and Galaxy-X class models, I would be happy to do the work for you. It would be rather quick considering it's a kitbash tack on job.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Thank you my friend!!! I shall make it my personal quest to seek his permission, post haste!

 

[Majestic]

You're welcome, if you secure permission, I already have the model made for you. It just needs a bit of hardpointing work.



And here is a comparison with the Galaxy-X, a design I never liked personally.



I hope you don't mind, but I thought having the nacelle in the centre of the pod was a better alternative to being on top or under the pod.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Looks GREAT!!! I have a couple small request, but since you are doing this out of the kindness of your heart with your own time for free, I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.

I like the pod. That configuration never occured to me.

 

[CptBenSisko]

hmmm...majest...how about splitting the pod up? have the engine mounted to the top of the pylon and have the two halves of the pod attached to the sides of the pylon.. thats another possible config...

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Isn't that what he did?

Also, Majest, the little nitpicking I mentioned earlier. If I may, could you make the assault cannon underneath the saucer longer and narrower. That way it mirrors the one on the Galaxy-X. The other thing is, move the wings off of the bottom two nacelles and put them on the 90 degree corners of the struts at a 45 degree angle pointing away from the ship. Also, to mirror the Galaxy-X.

 

[Majestic]

hmmm...majest...how about splitting the pod up? have the engine mounted to the top of the pylon and have the two halves of the pod attached to the sides of the pylon.. thats another possible config...

Great minds think a like, that's what I have done.

Isn't that what he did?

Also, Majest, the little nitpicking I mentioned earlier. If I may, could you make the assault cannon underneath the saucer longer and narrower. That way it mirrors the one on the Galaxy-X. The other thing is, move the wings off of the bottom two nacelles and put them on the 90 degree corners of the struts at a 45 degree angle pointing away from the ship. Also, to mirror the Galaxy-X.

For the cannon, it won't work that way due to the Nebula saucer, being shaped differently and smaller than the Galaxy. I initially tried the Gal-X version and the were gabs and such at the front that made it look rather tacky. So I made it smaller and I feel it looks much better.

As for the fins/wings, if I do that, they'll conflict with the nacelles. Hence why I placed the on the nacelles, it also in my view makes it match the Gal-X a little better as seen in the comparison image.

 

[Adm_Z]

Though I too dislike the Galaxy X, I have to say that it is an excellent piece of work. Great job on your part Majestic.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Ok. It still looks great this way too.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Does anybody know how I can get ahold of Moerman, he doesn't seem to be on the filefront forums anymore.

 

[Majestic]

Does anybody know how I can get ahold of Moerman, he doesn't seem to be on the filefront forums anymore.

He's on filefront, just not daily. You need some patience here, it look like a week or two for him to respond to one of my PM's over there once. He's quite a busy person at times.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Permission

I officially have Aad's permission.

 

[Majestic]

I officially have Aad's permission.

I'll see about getting it ready over next week, I still have a couple of requests for Jetfreak to complete first as he has been waiting for a while and he was first in.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Completely understand. Patients is my middle name!!! But, seriously, I can wait another week. Could you send me what you have so far so I can look it over? With no Milkshape or 3ds or whatever it's called, by send whatever you have meaning, anything that can be viewed with notepad or a picture viewer. Also, I have a program that can look at textures. Don't know how to use the thing, but I can look at them at least...

 

[Majestic]

I already have in my of my previous posts, the textures are the ones that Aad Moerman did for his Nebula and Galaxy classes. Hence why I decided to kitbash his models, they are good low poly models with great textures and he usually allows me to work with his models and textures as he knows I do credit correctly.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Mi'lord, may I request a status update?

 

[Majestic]

Mi'lord, may I request a status update?

As long as you drop the Mi'lord?

The model is complete and I plan to hardpoint her soon before I send her off to Jetfreak for his usual magic, then it's all set for a release. So hopefully in a week and a half depending on both our schedules she should be ready for you.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Of course I'll drop the Mi'lord, Governer!

Ok. Thank you Jet for your magic.

 

[Majestic]

Of course I'll drop the Mi'lord, Governer!

Ok. Thank you Jet for your magic.

No titles please, they make me uncomfortable, Majestic I like.

Yeah shouldn't be too much longer. I was actually thinking about it last night and remembering that I need to finish it off.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Alright, Majest...

 

[Majestic]

Majestic, Majest is my RPG and Fan Fiction character.

 

[Jetfreak]

Oh sweet and thanks, I'd certainly like the opportunity to do some tweaks on this heavy hitter. ^_^

I already have some ideas on how to transfer some of the more accurate deflector and nacelle textures from the SNS Model to Aad's. It should be minimal work for the rest of the main hull though. Aad nailed that one perfectly.

 

[Majestic]

Oh sweet and thanks, I'd certainly like the opportunity to do some tweaks on this heavy hitter. ^_^

I already have some ideas on how to transfer some of the more accurate deflector and nacelle textures from the SNS Model to Aad's. It should be minimal work for the rest of the main hull though. Aad nailed that one perfectly.

I am glad you are looking forward to it, I'll have to get it hardpointed soon then.

 

[Majestic]

The file is up and ready to go: Cloud class Download

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

Thank you guys so much.

 

[Timothyjmcneeley]

could you tell me what to put in the gui_global file? I did the tech1 and all other files that I know of. I just don't know what to put in the global.