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The Secret Race

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Kosh Naranek

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Lol, true, but I'm a very stubborn guy who usually keeps trying if I put my mind to it. Still, I'm more than willing to let someone else get it, if they manage to post the name of the secret race before I do, but that is the point of this thread, to guess who/what the secret race is, lol, and I needed to raise my post count anyways, lol.
 

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Answering your guesses -

Al-Leyan - No!
Alcyone - No!
Alfarian - No!
Alkian - No!
Alsuran - No!
Altoran - No!
Alvanian - No!
Argala - No!
Argosian - No!
Arrithean - No!
Bardeezan - No!
Barolian - No!
Bendali - No!
Benzenite - No!
Bara Plenum - No!
Balduk - No!
Baezian - No!
B'Saari - No!
Bowsers - No!
Bozelian - No!
Briori - No!
Byzallian - No!
Byzatium - No!
Boray - No!
Berellian - No!

But keep trying.:D
 
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Kosh Naranek

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Lol, you can rest assured I will, Syf. This is actually a bit fun. Though, I'll stop for a while for now in order to give some others the chance to guess.
 

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They are semi-cannon and have been seen on screen once, briefly for one episode. As Syf has think outside the box, and think of the era and the type of lifestyles they have during that time.

I can say they didn't appear in ENT. While we are using a few designs and some of the history from ENT in YY, no races from ENT will appear in YY.
 
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Lol, looks like I need to go through the ones I skipped over for the last list now.

Well, just for fun, here's another guess:

Those parasites from "Conspiracy", if I remember the episode title correctly (it was TNG, but *shrugs* according to what I've read of the expanded history, they were encountered long before that originally. Apparently, they were a failed attempt at genetically engineering Trill symbiotes, but that wasn't confirmed on screen).
 

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Well, your guess is wrong... but now your starting to think "outside the box".:clap:
 

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Another guess from me, just had chance to think

The First Federation perhaps? The same race as Commander Balok was?
 
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Kosh Naranek

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Well, your guess is wrong... but now your starting to think "outside the box".:clap:

Understood, and thanks.

Another guess from me, just had chance to think

The First Federation perhaps? The same race as Commander Balok was?

Was just about to ask the same thing myself, lol.
 

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Another guess from me, just had chance to think

The First Federation perhaps? The same race as Commander Balok was?

One word... Nope. They appeared on screen with 2 ships. That excludes them. Now if this had been a Federations mod, then you might be right.
 
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One question: "First Federation"?

Obviously my trekkie-fu is weak. Train me, those who would serve as a sensei of trekdom!
 

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One question: "First Federation"?

Obviously my trekkie-fu is weak. Train me, those who would serve as a sensei of trekdom!

You don't know of "The First Federation"?

Here's some info on them:
They appeared on the "TOS" episode: "The Corbomite Maneuver"

From Memory-Alpha.org said:
The First Federation is a political and military organization first encountered in the 23rd century.

Very little is known about the origins, deployment and population of the First Federation. The first significant encounter took place in 2266, when the USS Enterprise seemed to cross into First Federation space, destroying a marker buoy in the process.

Shortly thereafter, the Enterprise encountered the flagship of the First Federation, the Fesarius. Charged with violating their territory, the Enterprise and its crew were threatened with destruction. However, after a series of bluffs and counter-bluffs, it was later discovered that the encounter had been a test, designed by the Fesarius' captain, Balok. A cultural exchange was proposed, with Enterprise crewman Dave Bailey remaining on board the Fesarius. (TOS: "The Corbomite Maneuver")

Trade between the First Federation and various Alpha Quadrant species continued into the 24th century, with tranya being a major export - Quark's on Deep Space 9 served the beverage. (DS9: "Facets")

The First Federation's location was also mentioned as a small note on a very large star chart graphic created for TNG: "Conspiracy". It was the image behind the chair in the room where Dexter Remmick was killed. It appears to be located within an outlined block, which may indicate that it was surrounded by or was even a part of Federation territory at the time.
Aside from the note on the star chart in "Conspiracy" and the brief mention of tranya in "Facets", there have been no references to the First Federation in any subsequent episodes or movies. Presumably, this had something to do with the fact that the term "Federation" has since become associated with the United Federation of Planets (which had not yet been introduced at the time of "The Corbomite Maneuver").

This info is from memory-alpha. org
 
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They are semi-cannon and have been seen on screen once, briefly for one episode.
They appeared on screen with 2 ships.
Ahem, sorry, but if they've appeared on screen, how is it that you've come to address them as 'semi'-canon?

Anything seen on screen IS canon. It doesn't matter for how long, if they've been shown, then they are canon.

Edit: This race, and this project being a TMP project, must mean that this species of yours has to have been seen in one of the Kirk-movies, or in TOS. Right?
 

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I am not sure if these guys have been mentioned yet, or count, but maybe you are thinking of the species that constructed the doomsday machine?

EDIT: And maybe the semi-canon part is that we don't know their name, how they look like and how their other ships look like. Only the doomsday macjine is known to be from them.

PS.: Enough out-of-the-box thinking? :D
 

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It is not the Andromedan Invaders (aka: Doomsday machine builders)... But good try. That was very "outside the box".

As far as on-screen... that is a loose string at best. There is a reference to them I know of... but what, when, and where... I'm not saying. Majestic would fly to America just to castrate me.
 
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It is not the Andromedan Invaders (aka: Doomsday machine builders)... But good try. That was very "outside the box".

As far as on-screen... that is a loose string at best. There is a reference to them I know of... but what, when, and where... I'm not saying. Majestic would fly to America just to castrate me.

Actually, according to my data, the Andromeda invaders were never connected with the Doomsday Machine. In fact, the canon implies the DM builders are extinct.

The Andromeda aliens, well the ones in the TOS episode were the Kelvans. It the Kelvans? No Kelvan ship was ever seen on screen.

Or is it the Ornithoids (ie, Sylvia and Korob found by the original (well, in production order, if you don't count the ones mentioned as existing or ocean going ones) Enterprise on Pyris VII in the episode "Catspaw")?
 
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Ahem, sorry, but if they've appeared on screen, how is it that you've come to address them as 'semi'-canon?

Anything seen on screen IS canon. It doesn't matter for how long, if they've been shown, then they are canon.

Edit: This race, and this project being a TMP project, must mean that this species of yours has to have been seen in one of the Kirk-movies, or in TOS. Right?

Nope, actually we have taken some races like the Cardassians from the TNG era and made TMP versions of them. Same could be said about the Gorn, we just found a DS9 concept and make TMP versions of them.

As for the secret race being semi canon, they were never named officially on screen, plus there ship designs are different to what they were using on screen so they are semi-canon.
 
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Nope, actually we have taken some races like the Cardassians from the TNG era and made TMP versions of them. Same could be said about the Gorn, we just found a DS9 concept and make TMP versions of them.
Hmm... Ok, you make a good point here.

I am going to take a guess though, and say that this species wasn't in Voyager. For a TMP project, having a race from the Delta Quadrant I can't see happening.....

As for the secret race being semi canon, they were never named officially on screen, plus there ship designs are different to what they were using on screen so they are semi-canon.
If there were actually 'seen' on screen, then I'd have labelled them as canon, though I see your reason for not doing.

Still, interesting as to who they'll actually be... I don't think it would help searching sites, as you've just said they weren't named officially, so looking for trek species seen on screen would be a waste of time.
 
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I am going to take a guess though, and say that this species wasn't in Voyager. For a TMP project, having a race from the Delta Quadrant I can't see happening.....

I'll have to disagree. I've seen TMP era Borg designs out there, well TOS technically, IIRC.

If there were actually 'seen' on screen, then I'd have labelled them as canon, though I see your reason for not doing.

Same here.

Still, interesting as to who they'll actually be... I don't think it would help searching sites, as you've just said they weren't named officially, so looking for trek species seen on screen would be a waste of time.

You don't know my sources, lol.

As for my guesses in my last post, as the new clue is unnamed on screen, well the alien's in "Catspaw" were unnamed as a species in the episode.

Still, here's a few other guesses:

The space amoeba:
The race that built Gomtuu;
The androids from the TOS episode "I, Mudd";
The Edos 'god';
The Hierarchy species.

That's it, for now, at least.
 
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Could you tell us what colour they're ships are? Or what colour they are even?
 
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This is a joke. This is only a joke. Do not alter your computer screen in any way.

Oh oh oh...I know the secret race....It's the Q contiummum, (or however you spell it)... Im kidding. :lol2:
 

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I can't believe it.... someone actually got it!:clap: :clap:

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Just kidding. Sorry, that's not the right answer.
 
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I love you guys!
 

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The secret race is one of our biggest and longest secrets and you all have buck-lies trying to get it out of us. :lol2:
 
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I know...I made a funny, no? :lol2:
 

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Here is the final clue to the identity of the secret race.

The ******* ********* ** **********!

If anyone can guest that, I will give them a single shot of one of the models for their desktop!
 
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Is there a little bigger hint...like was it ever seen in any of the first 7 movies?
 
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Is there a little bigger hint...like was it ever seen in any of the first 7 movies?
All the hints have been given to us already. It is a semi-canon race, so if it has been shown to us on screen, it hasn't been done very well.

Syf said:
******* ********* ** **********!

******* ********* of **********! Is that part right? :p
 
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Thats what I thought it was as well, the last word could be a planet/system.

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******* ********* of **********! Is that part right?

I think it is "is"
 

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Of would be the correct word.:)
 
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