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The Klingon Side

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After hitting level 24/25 Federation character silver members can unlock the opportunity to play the Klingon faction. I don't know how many of you have taken up this opportunity but it really is different and started off great. The first part of the campaign was completely original having to discover who is behind the attempt on the House of Martok, meeting Worf and even at one point fighting alongside him. He's gotten old. :lol:

However then it becomes a cut and paste of the Federation Campaign. However I must say get through that the Fek'lhri campaign while too short is very Klingon, go to Gre'thor and fight all hordes of condemned beings including Molor and even Fek'lhr himself. Kat and I got through that with the help of SciFiFan many thanks for that mate. Now we are up to the Romulan campaign which again seems to be another cut and paste. However I have heard they are focusing on improving the Klingon side this year and with hopes they will manage to do just that.

My biggest issue with the Klingon side is you start at Commander, not at Lieutenant, they also seem to make it faster to level. I already think the Federation characters level too fast, where is the fun reaching Vice Admiral? You can't improve your character anymore and it just becomes boring. It's the road to get there that is fun in my eyes. I hope this is something else they will improve this year make it after you reach Lieutenant Commander or Commander that it takes 3-4 times longer to reach the next rank or perhaps add 20 levels between ranks instead of just the 10.

Anyway even with the cut and paste I seem to be enjoying the Klingon campaign a lot. My characters:

Naymor - Lethean Male - Engineer - Level 36
Vannaka - Alien Male - Engineer - Level 40
Reani - Orion Female - Science - Level 25
Lakara - Klingon Female - Science - Level 34

The last one I created as a character to work with Scarlon to help him out with the missions. Vannaka (Midway fans may know that name) works with Z'Nesh (Kat's Orion Character) and the other too are for me to have fun with work on at a slow pace when I go solo.

Now to hit it off with some pictures. :D

The new Naymor
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Vannaka
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Reani and her all Orion crew
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Lakara and her all Klingon crew
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I would like to add a few notes to this.

1. The Klingon faction was first created as a PvP focused faction. Now that more players are on, they are feeling the pressure (that has always been there) even more to flesh out the Klingon side.

2. You start at Commander due to the lack of Klingon content. If they started you at Lieutenant (they did prior to F2P) you would be in a grind fest to level. Believe me, I have been there.

3. The cut and paste missions are the pre-F2P featured series missions. They decided it was a good idea to throw those into the progression missions.

They are working on finishing the Klingon side. They have also stated that when that is done, they start on the Romulan faction. :D
 
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Haven't done more than look at the tl'Ingans briefly. Saw the limited number of missions and the fact the Klinks were originally intended as PvP. This is the impetus I feel to make some missions in the Foundry. Working hard to flesh out some ideas. I've got a basic plotline laid out already and simply am waiting to free up enough cash to spend on the game. Big step, but I cannot help nor stop myself. The storyline came from me asking some questions.

What if the crew of IKS Rotarran decided that their own honor was lost when Martok was killed?
What if they decided to do something about it?
How far would they be willing to go to regain their honor?
 

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I just got the carrier for Naymor at General, I must say it's a heap of..... I am so glad I got it for Naymor as once he is 50 he has the Bortas to use. So glad I got Vannaka the Negh'Var. :D

3. The cut and paste missions are the pre-F2P featured series missions. They decided it was a good idea to throw those into the progression missions.

I have no issues with some missions being the same as the Federation campaign though they do need Klingon objectives like the ones where you go back in time, a Klingon officer wouldn't run around getting a drink, more likely sabotage the station to help the Klingons of that era or something. I felt if they did a little bit more work they would find people happy about them.

They are working on finishing the Klingon side. They have also stated that when that is done, they start on the Romulan faction. :D

I sure hope they finish the Klingon side fully before moving on, and those bugs riddled throughout the game such as the ones were you get stuck and can't move or where you can't fire and have to log out and then back in to fix. Very annoying and frustrating.

I am hopeful 2012 will fix all these things and bring STO up on par with SWTOR as I've heard it's really good and considering Bioware is at the helm I'm not surprised. However they aren't f2p and that is I think why STO will have more players and more income over the Star Wars MMO.
 

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have no issues with some missions being the same as the Federation campaign though they do need Klingon objectives like the ones where you go back in time, a Klingon officer wouldn't run around getting a drink, more likely sabotage the station to help the Klingons of that era or something. I felt if they did a little bit more work they would find people happy about them.

If you have noticed, they did that with the new FE. For example, the Feds running the Second Wave mission sends their Doff to repair another captain's ship. While the Klingons running the same mission, sends their Doff to do covert ops. With each Featured Series, they get better.

I sure hope they finish the Klingon side fully before moving on, and those bugs riddled throughout the game such as the ones were you get stuck and can't move or where you can't fire and have to log out and then back in to fix. Very annoying and frustrating.

I am hopeful 2012 will fix all these things and bring STO up on par with SWTOR as I've heard it's really good and considering Bioware is at the helm I'm not surprised. However they aren't f2p and that is I think why STO will have more players and more income over the Star Wars MMO.

I agree. We all want to see improvement on STO. As a player that has been playing for nearly two years, I can tell you they have come a log way. Still more to go though. As for SWTOR, the one thing about it that I heard that turns me off is that the space battles are "rail driven" or that you do not control your ship beyond roll right/left, point your nose left/right/up/down, and shoot. I love the freedom of movement in the STO space combat.
 

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If you have noticed, they did that with the new FE. For example, the Feds running the Second Wave mission sends their Doff to repair another captain's ship. While the Klingons running the same mission, sends their Doff to do covert ops. With each Featured Series, they get better.

I still feel it's basically the same thing, I think to truly make it unique for each side they need to have the objectives to be different to a point that it feels like a different mission altogether. Klingons I don't think would worry about Kenar for a Cardassian or get a holosuite reservation for a Deferi. It gets boring doing the same thing for both sides. I know where you're coming from and they do still have a long way to go. I am just hoping they'll really make the Klingon side unique this year rather than more Federation stuff. As you can tell by now I much prefer the Klingon side. What I found annoying as well is I finished the Romulan missions on Naymor and I was level 42, yet I need to be 46 to do the Breen ones. I think for the Klingon side with their cut and paste they should have made the requirements for the missions to work in with the Klingons rather than forcing a player to do side missions to gain 4 levels before they can continue on. So far I have re-done the last part of the Federation war and only got one level out of it. I still have 2 more to go now as I've been using Duty Officer assignments to help me rank.

I know I skipped a few missions, the Vault as I don't like that mission and Gates of Gre'thor as I couldn't get pass the first spirit by myself.

I agree. We all want to see improvement on STO. As a player that has been playing for nearly two years, I can tell you they have come a log way. Still more to go though. As for SWTOR, the one thing about it that I heard that turns me off is that the space battles are "rail driven" or that you do not control your ship beyond roll right/left, point your nose left/right/up/down, and shoot. I love the freedom of movement in the STO space combat.

Here's to hoping. I think if they really put the work in and dedicated enough they could really make STO a top end game. I can understand they've had issues in the past with the selling of the company and the fear of the cancellation of the game itself. Lets hope 2012 is the year they manage to fix all these annoying bugs and make Federation Online, Star Trek Online. :thumbsup:
 
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I have been playing a tlIngan for nearly the entire month of March now. Despite the critiques and problems outlined previously, which are legit, I have thoroughly enjoyed myself as a subject of the Empire. Being a recent convert to STO I have little knowledge of what went on before. I have had...fun! It has been a very long time since I've enjoyed myself so much while playing a Star Trek based game. The last time I enjoyed myself this much was while playing the Single Player Campaign in SFC III. To any and all who have not considered it, please do give playing as a tlIngan some serious thought. Despite the hiccups, it is worthwhile.

Does STO have errors and problems? You betcha. All games do. Is it an accurate, canon representation of the Star Trek we all know so well and love? Not as much as it could be. This may be a plus. If you are someone who sees only the errors and nitpicks the mistakes, STO is not something you may enjoy. If you think Star Trek should not be changed one iota from your view of what is canon, then you probably hate STO already. If you are waiting for the next Star Trek based game, good luck with this. STO is probably the last one which will be made. Because all the things one can base a Star Trek game on can easily be included as a part of STO. Currently, CBS owns the rights to Star Trek, so they will probably not allow anything to derail the huge cash cow STO can become.

If you view Star Trek as a tent with enough room under it for any and all, then give STO a shot. And try to get to playing as a tlIngan captain as quickly as possible. You will not regret it.
 

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STO does have it's good points, however I truly think Cryptic doesn't test these new patches before applying them to the live environment. That's the problem with STO the development team and more importantly the big bosses need to stop rushing and take their time to release something that will encourage F2P players to go a buy a subscription. They also need to offer more for paying customers who have a monthly or lifetime membership.

STO has a lot of potential it's already a good game, but if they can nail those few things down they'll find how successful this game can be.

There is also a new game coming out based on the Chris Pine Trek movie, it's a game about Kirk and Spock and is supposed to be a FPS.
 

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If they do the Romulans, I might actually give it a try. :) I sooo want to play a D'deridex.
 

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If they do the Romulans, I might actually give it a try. :) I sooo want to play a D'deridex.

They are going to be doing a Romulan campaign after they finish up the Klingon one, however you'll need to have a Level 24 Federation Character before you can play the Klingon side and probably a level something Klingon character to play the Romulan campaign.

So if you want to play for free, you'll need to get cracking on getting some other faction characters. Give it a shot Terra, it a lot of fun about as much fun as when I first played the Armada 1 and Elite Force 1 campaigns for the very first time. :thumbsup:
 

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They are going to be doing a Romulan campaign after they finish up the Klingon one, however you'll need to have a Level 24 Federation Character before you can play the Klingon side and probably a level something Klingon character to play the Romulan campaign.

So if you want to play for free, you'll need to get cracking on getting some other faction characters. Give it a shot Terra, it a lot of fun about as much fun as when I first played the Armada 1 and Elite Force 1 campaigns for the very first time. :thumbsup:

When they finish the Klingon campaign, the plan is to be able to start a Klingon character from the very beginning without having to roll a Fed first. It will have its own tutorial. This starts with the release of a new Klingon exclusive mission on April 5th. I do agree with Maj that you need to roll a Klingon. It is fun.
 

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Yeah the Klingon are fun and the experience is a lot less, which means you can max out a Character currently in far less time than a Federation character. Hence why I often get Klingon characters up and then delete them to start again. However I am planning on keeping one of each class/career maxed out for STF's and the like.

  • Corvaal for Tactical (Unless I decided the BOP's at lvl 50 don't work as well as the Raptors as Covaal has only used BOP's).
  • Reani for Science
  • Naymor for Engineering
 
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Maj, give your Tac a Vor'Cha to drive. You'll not be sorry. I've not tried her out with a Eng for a Captain yet, but I am itching to do so.
 

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I ran a Vor'cha on my Engineer and it worked quite well, I ran my science on Raptors and they worked quite well, but she was made to work with Scarlon's Gorn character. I am enjoying the BOP's they move fast, hit hard and I am really impressed by them so far with a Tactical officer and with universal stations it means I can alter the configuration depending on the situation. I am half tempted to wait until someone here gets a new Klingon character and gets up to the Fek'lhri missions and I will work with them. I think the BOP will work very well with someone as an engineer running a Battlecruiser.

I would strongly recommend against the Carrier personally. I ran it on Naymor and disliked the ship, I couldn't wait until I was a LG (lvl 50) so I could get my anniversary special Bortas. Never looked back, I personally prefer the Bortas over the Odyssey however I would never buy the ships from the c-store I think they are overpriced and very unoriginal in the way they just changed a bridge officer slot, console slot, added a console and then called them a new ship. A cheap money grab when they should've made the whole lot just 2000CP or made original designs for the science and tactical spots.
 
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The BOPs are very much fun as well. They moved away from the 'Glass Cannon' concept of the Fed Escorts. I enjoy conning Relentless very much. However, there are times when I wish she was a little more...substantial, lol. One of the things I enjoy about conning Fire Blade, my Vor'cha, is her ability to shrug off an Alpha Strike which would finish off a Fed cruiser. These usually occur just after I've made a tactical faux pas. Such as uncloaking within weapons range of two Typhoons, lol. The BOPs are fighter bombers which can give larger ships no end of headaches. One of my LAN buddies refuses to use anything else. He has spent Real Money on his BOP, Lil' Stinker, to max out her crew and give her a complete set of Mk XI Rare quality consoles and weapons. It is hilarious to hear him over TeamSpeak, saying, "Be vewy qwiet. I'm hunting Sovwhens. hahahahahahaha!".

It is even funnier when he finds one. "You have just been vanqwished by Elmer. Of the House of Fudd. Qwapla'!". I have heard it about a dozen or so times but it never fails to raise a laugh.
 

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They are going to be doing a Romulan campaign after they finish up the Klingon one, however you'll need to have a Level 24 Federation Character before you can play the Klingon side and probably a level something Klingon character to play the Romulan campaign.

So if you want to play for free, you'll need to get cracking on getting some other faction characters. Give it a shot Terra, it a lot of fun about as much fun as when I first played the Armada 1 and Elite Force 1 campaigns for the very first time. :thumbsup:

Meh, I might actually do that. I just DL'd and installed. I didn't have much time, but it seemed to run relatively fine. Of course, my old CPU and graphics card can't run the thing on full settings, but lower settings might work out for me.

Take care! The Kitteh is coming for you! :lol2:
 
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Meh, I might actually do that. I just DL'd and installed. I didn't have much time, but it seemed to run relatively fine. Of course, my old CPU and graphics card can't run the thing on full settings, but lower settings might work out for me.

Take care! The Kitteh is coming for you! :lol2:
I shall be prepared for your arrival. My bat'leth is properly sharpened and I have plenty of prune juice to fortify myself. The Loresingers have been alerted to be ready to record a battle whose tale shall be told for the next thousand generations. Kitteh vs. tlhIngan will make others who were not there wail and gnash their teeth at the lack of gory for them. MahQAL!
 

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Awesome to hear you're coming on, when you get up and running feel free to add me, @majesticmsfc, to your friendlist I like many here will be happy to help you out on missions and to get familiar with the game and all it's about. :thumbsup:
 

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Meh, I might actually do that. I just DL'd and installed. I didn't have much time, but it seemed to run relatively fine. Of course, my old CPU and graphics card can't run the thing on full settings, but lower settings might work out for me.

Take care! The Kitteh is coming for you! :lol2:

Add me to your friends list @SciFiFan_78.

Also, if you want to see the SciFi Kitteh, see below.

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The only thing that can improve this situation I feel is players spending more time on the KDF side and asking/requesting perhaps even demanding more KDF content and not requesting any more Federation content or improvements. Cryptic/PWE's current stance is that there aren't enough KDF players so it's not a priority in their eyes. The Federation is their money maker. Unfortunately the current situation could be easily fixed by producing more content and bringing the KDF up to equal standing to the Federation. However instead of attempting to fix the issue ignoring it seems to be an easier option. Whether this is Cryptic's decision or pressure from PWE is unknown to us the gamers and community. All we can do is continue to try and live in hope and try and support the game in the hopes they will eventually flesh out the KDF as we all hope.
 

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The only thing that can improve this situation I feel is players spending more time on the KDF side and asking/requesting perhaps even demanding more KDF content and not requesting any more Federation content or improvements. Cryptic/PWE's current stance is that there aren't enough KDF players so it's not a priority in their eyes. The Federation is their money maker. Unfortunately the current situation could be easily fixed by producing more content and bringing the KDF up to equal standing to the Federation. However instead of attempting to fix the issue ignoring it seems to be an easier option. Whether this is Cryptic's decision or pressure from PWE is unknown to us the gamers and community. All we can do is continue to try and live in hope and try and support the game in the hopes they will eventually flesh out the KDF as we all hope.

maybe its that way, i recently started to play my Klingon character and bought it a gorn carrier with cryptic points but the servers lag so much on the KDF missions. i lost two of my officers in a ground mission only cause they have fallen through the ground on a station and later got stuck in it. :thumbsdown:
i will do it like you told and get to bug them for that :D
 
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All of you are right. What was I thinking? STO sucks! I'll delete all my STO stuff immediately and never ever play any Star Trek-based game ever again. And to make sure I never do anything else fun online, I am going to sell off my computer and become a Luddite.

Honestly, guys...

STO is a business. Like all businesses everywhere, it has to answer to the desires of its customers. And right now, the majority of them want more Fed content. Most people(ie, casual Star Trek fans) view the game as centered on Starfleet anyway, with the Klingon faction being an interesting diversion for an evening or two. As much as we may dislike it, the KDF faction does not make as much money for PWE as the Fed side does. Until it does so, they have exactly zero incentive to make more KDF stuff. Because it isn't a profit center for them. It could be and obviously they see the potential, so they are trying to cover all the bases by releasing what they have already. But unless there is a surge of demand which numbers in the millions for more and better KDF stuff which has very large dollar signs obviously attached to it, it ain't gonna happen. In their shoes, I would do things the same way. Because it really does come down to the bottom line. The very second this game starts to be unprofitable, PWE will kill off all of STO. Not just the KDF. If I were them and saw the negativity of the posts Maj linked to which portrayed Cryptic and PWE decisions in the very worst possible way, and I noticed more and more people were playing Feds, I would react exactly the same way they have. In fact, my response would probably be to drop any and all KDF based ideas and materials forever. If all I am going to do is catch flak from a very vocal minority of my customers, no matter what KDF content I release, they can go play something else! My Fed players are my profit center, so their needs and wants will come first. I have to go where the money is. Because I am unwilling to go stand in the unemployment line and I have shareholders to answer to.

Is this fair? Nope.

Does it have to be this way? Nope.

Do I like it or am I defending Cryptic and PWE? Nope. Explaining.

Comes down to a choice, doesn't it? Play STO or don't.

What we have ain't all that bad is it? I view this game as a W.I.P. which will be around for a long time yet. Just because they are not adding new KDF content right at this very moment does not mean they never intend to do so. I, for one, am willing to be patient. Because these things cycle like all businesses do. Sooner or later they will release more KDF content. The biggest problem I see people have with this is Cryptic is going to do so on their timetable and not someone else's.
 
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