Terra Nova

[Aerilon]

I've always been interested in both the prehistoric and science fiction, and this seems to be a good stretch of both. Think it's scheduled to air May 2011.

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The show begins in the year 2149, a time when all life on planet Earth is threatened with extinction. In an effort to save the human race, scientists develop a portal allowing travel 85 million years back in time to prehistoric Earth. The Shannon family (father Jim, his wife Elisabeth, and their three children Josh, Maddy and Zoe) join the tenth pilgrimage of settlers to Terra Nova, the first human colony on the other side of the temporal doorway. However, they are unaware that the colony is in the middle of a group of carnivorous dinosaurs.

My only two quibbles though, firstly I'm slightly baffled as to why these people chose a period roughly 85 million years into the past to survive. It seems these people didn't take into account the meteorite that is suppose to strike and wipe out all the Dinosaurs at some point in history. Should have joined the Mammoths and Sabre Tooth Cats instead?

The second quibble, for wanting to save themselves, and the planet, they're still driving around in vehicles which no doubt require petrol to use; and we all know how great petrol is to any given environment.

Rumour has it, it's got $4 Million an episode, and is directed by Spielberg. One to watch I think.

 

[K_merse]

That meteor will fall about 20 million years later.
What really bothers me is the problem of time-travel. I'm afraid that they will totally ignore that the deeds of the characters should affect the future. Just imagine! They eat an animal which would be the root of all mammals for example.
Mankind sent Earth ecology on the verge of a catastrophe within 6000 years. How much do you thin they would affect the history of Earth within 20 million years?
But I'm sure that they won't bother with such nonsenses... Maybe the end of the series will be that there was no meteor, but a huge nuclear explosion in the past

 

[Majestic]

A very interesting series, I love Dinosaur shows, so will certainly watch this even with the flaws mentioned above. All shows have flaws, ones that writers and producers either don't think about or ignore.

 

[Aerilon]

26th of September folks. Tune in if you're able.

 

[Avon]

I've seen a couple of trailers for it now. Looks quite good actually, I may give it a go

 

[Aerilon]

Tomorrow Night!

 

[Terra_Inc]

That meteor will fall about 20 million years later.
What really bothers me is the problem of time-travel. I'm afraid that they will totally ignore that the deeds of the characters should affect the future. Just imagine! They eat an animal which would be the root of all mammals for example.
Mankind sent Earth ecology on the verge of a catastrophe within 6000 years. How much do you thin they would affect the history of Earth within 20 million years?
But I'm sure that they won't bother with such nonsenses... Maybe the end of the series will be that there was no meteor, but a huge nuclear explosion in the past

Ah heh, this comes pretty late, but whatever. While I know nothing about SciFi shows we probably won't even get to see here, I do know some things about time physics, or to be precise, the most common theories. What you describe is basically the Grandfather paradoxon. There are a few theories, particularly Novikov's self-consistency conjecture, claiming that you can't change the future enough to create such a paradoxon, and I think Thorne agrees with him. I'm not sure I understand his argumentation, but I am not a physicist, so meh.
But all this thinking about possible consequences becomes irrelevant if we can find a proof for Hawking's chronology protection conjecture, which states that closed timelike curves are physically impossible and therefore, we can not travel into the past. (There is a less radical theory described as chronology censorship, which basically says that you CAN have closed timelike curves, but if you use them to travel through time, you get blown up or something... I don't remember exactly how it works)

 

[CABAL]

The first episode of Terra Nova just aired over here and I like it so far.

Spoiler: Terra Nova

The Sixers and symbols seem like interesting plot lines and they explained the paradoxes out in a way that made sense. I'm not entirely sure about the dinosaurs yet, but we've only seen a few so hopefully their behavior and appearances vary a bit more on the whole. I've got to say though, the son (Josh?) was a moron.

 

[Katala]

The first episode of Terra Nova just aired over here and I like it so far.

Awesome, it wont air for us for another 5 nights but we are looking forward to watching

 

[CABAL]

You might be able to cheat and watch it on the Fox website. Anyway, thanks for the edit; I was trying to keep the post from being spoiler-y but dropping it in spoiler tags was probably a good idea.

 

[Katala]

I was thinking about that, but Maj would get upset as he wants to wait and watch it on the Tv since it is larger than my monitor plus having our PC's side by side on the desk means he can see whatever is on my screen :x, I could have run the cable from my pc to the Tv but he still wouldn't be happy so I'll just wait

It's all good, considering I havent even seen a trailer etc for it I thought for those who dont know much yet want to see it, might be best to hide, it, Maj would have done it if I didn't, I just beat him to it haha

 

[Majestic]

Katala and I watched it the other night as it started viewing here. I at first was rather worried, as so many dinosaur movies are rather lame with only the Jurassic Park movies and Dinotopia ones being my favourites.

However I am very impressed by what I saw and I think it will became a favourite series of mine, now we have two awesome shows on a Sunday Night, a Aussie made Bushranger one called Wild Boys and now Terra Nova. Sunday night has just become my favourite night.

 

[Adm_Z]

So far, I love this show. It is great, and I like its premise much better than falling skies. I can't wait for the rest of the series.

 

[Majestic]

I wonder how long it will take the networks to cancel it though, whenever a good series starts they cancel it a couple of seasons in. I really hope they don't do it with this one, but I have hoped that before with other shows and they have sorely disappointed me.

 

[Aerilon]

Okay, so I'm on episode five at the moment (Runaway), and I think the show is heading strong. I'll try not to spoil anything as I know a few of you are going to be behind on this.

Spoiler: Terra Nova

The Sixers and symbols seem like interesting plot lines and they explained the paradoxes out in a way that made sense.

I'm not convinced about this, I'm willing to bet (long-term) that the 'future' and 'past' are actually the same timeline / universe. We know they travelled back 85 million years, that's plenty of time to mess humanity (and the planet) up again. For all we know, it is the descendants of these new colonists that cause the mass extinction of the dinosaurs (and possibly themselves), thus leading the way to the future they came from.

Spoiler: Terra Nova

I'm not entirely sure about the dinosaurs yet, but we've only seen a few so hopefully their behavior and appearances vary a bit more on the whole.

Small hiccup here, two Dinosaurs that appeared in the pilot; Carnotaurus and Brachiosaurus. The Carnotaurus were from the late-Cretaceous, the Brachiosaurus was from the Jurassic. These two Dinosaurs shouldn't be living in the same period, yet they are.

I at first was rather worried, as so many dinosaur movies are rather lame with only the Jurassic Park movies and Dinotopia ones being my favourites.

I actually thought the CGI in Dinotopia is better than some we've seen in Terra Nova. Might just be me, but the CGI in Terra Nova doesn't look as... real.

It is great, and I like its premise much better than falling skies.

Rumour has it the premiere of falling skies' second season starts off with one heck of a bang. I can't wait for that (got really into it, though I thought it a bit stupid walking onto an alien space ship like Tom did). To expand here for a moment:

Spoiler: hidden

The alien told Tom (through Karen) that they were impressed / surprised that Tom managed to use a Rocket Launcher to take down one of their aircraft. They told Tom they didn't expect such an act from Humanity (for lack of better words). Did these aliens fail to notice all the Nuke Silos and Heavy Weapon platforms scattered around the globe?

I wonder how long it will take the networks to cancel it though, whenever a good series starts they cancel it a couple of seasons in. I really hope they don't do it with this one, but I have hoped that before with other shows and they have sorely disappointed me.

This is also my fear. I think they've got 13-episodes for season one, and if I've read correctly, they've not quite got the viewers that they were hoping for. It'll suck if this show goes down too.

Oh, and also, to correct an earlier mistake of mine, in regards to the meteorite. We travelled back 85 million years in the show, that meteorite isn't suppose to hit until around 65 million years, so these new colonists have got roughly 20 million years to develop some massive space gun to blow that meteorite away.

 

[CABAL]

Small hiccup here, two Dinosaurs that appeared in the pilot; Carnotaurus and Brachiosaurus. The Carnotaurus were from the late-Cretaceous, the Brachiosaurus was from the Jurassic. These two Dinosaurs shouldn't be living in the same period, yet they are.

I'm not sure they or most of the viewers care. I mean, how often are the dinosaurs in these kinds of shows from the same time period?

Oh, and also, to correct an earlier mistake of mine, in regards to the meteorite. We travelled back 85 million years in the show, that meteorite isn't suppose to hit until around 65 million years, so these new colonists have got roughly 20 million years to develop some massive space gun to blow that meteorite away.

That reminded me of a recent episode, "You couldn't have time-traveled to after the ice age?" Cue facepalm.

 

[Majestic]

That reminded me of a recent episode, "You couldn't have time-traveled to after the ice age?" Cue facepalm.

That was last Sunday's episode here!

Yes a bit random but oh well.

I think that the series is off to a great start. Every series has things that don't quite work and things people can nitpick about but as a whole I think Terra Nova is a great series something we haven't seen since the remake of V.

 

[Aerilon]

I'm not sure they or most of the viewers care. I mean, how often are the dinosaurs in these kinds of shows from the same time period?

Oh, I know and can appreciate that. I was merely stating an observation.

 

[Andre27]

Just finished watching TN online. Can't believe they did not continue with this series.

 

[Adm_Z]

Yeah, I was very surprised it was canceled considering it was much better than falling skies(imo) and had a huge following. Besides a small bit of violence/gore it was pretty family friendly too.

 

[Andre27]

Falling sky.. watched the first two episodes, but i guess those apocalyptic alien invasion series are not my thing.

 

[Majestic]

I too was extremely disappointed when I heard this, I guess the TV networks don't want quality TV shows being produced and all the poop gets a good 7-10 seasons these days.

 

[CABAL]

Fox cancelled The Finder and Alcatraz, too. Alcatraz I understand, but The Finder and Terra Nova were fun if nothing else. At least they kept Touch.

Anyway, Terra Nova is being shopped to other networks so the show may not be dead.

 

[Adm_Z]

:Y What?? :exter:

They canceled the finder! Grrrr.... wouldn't know good television if it bet them..... :x

 

[Andre27]

:Y What?? :exter:

They canceled the finder! Grrrr.... wouldn't know good television if it bet them..... :x

That's not hard to imagine to be honest. America, or at least right wing America, is trying hard to forget about anything related to Iraq with elections around the corner.

Having a series with a Iraq veteran which gains some ability from an injury brings the hurt.
1. Iraq
2. Injured veteran

Being reminded of those short before elections is bad mojo as far as FOX is concerned.