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Star Trek Axanar

Discussion in 'Star Trek' started by Majestic, 5 Mar 2014.

  1. kjc733

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    I think it got ugly a while back when CBS issued the new fan film rules (some of which I don't see can hold up in law) - essentially killing further development.

    I think both sides are in the wrong here. I think that CBS didn't originally give two hoots about Axanar, not even about the amount of money they gained off of kickstarters, I think the only reason they care is because it's set in a similar time period to Discovery and they saw that they would be compared to Axanar (possibly not favourably given the little that have been in press releases).

    I think Axanar are in the wrong because they went far beyond kickstarter rules and started selling things under the Star Trek brand (which is probably the only other thing CBS care about) and were talking about using Ares studios for profit making.

    I do think both sides are being incredibly hard headed about this. Axanar shouldn't have counter sued back when CBS started to back off, and CBS shouldn't be so heavy handed with the fans who are, after all, their source of income. CBS should have had a quiet word with them, shown up with the men with suits, and offered to buy them out or let them continue with restrictions.
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    Frankly, when CBS saw that the fans wanted Axanar, and that the team was arguably doing better than they were, they should have bought them out, had them keep working on it, and funded Axanar as an official Star Trek project with minimal interference. Basically, Valve's approach to modders, but with film.
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    They could have done that, but I don't know if it would have been a good idea associating with Peters. The more I learn about the guy, the less I care for him. He seemed to have alienated many of the actors who starred in the rather impressive Prelude to Axanar; I think most if not all have jumped ship from the project since then. More over his legal shenanigans grow more silly. I think I've lost any sympathy for him.
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    Sad news...
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    Sad, but expected. Looks like the Ares won't be kicking anytime soon. :(
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    SciFiFan We lurk in the shadows Staff Member Forum Moderator

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    I am glad to see the lawsuit got settled. I am sure they will come up with something that will still be good to see. I am looking forward to the end results.

    @Zelph I have merged your posts for you.

    (Yay! my first moderation!! :clap:)
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    I'll confess that I'm somewhat surprised.
    I still think the rules are a little silly, and I'm not sure that the rules about hiring ex-Trek actors can even be legal unless it was specifically written into their contract. But anyway, lets hope they can make something of it.
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    Ditto on the legality and sanity of the guidelines. Foolish and legally precarious. I'm hoping CBS will yet end up with some egg on their face from that.
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    Seriously, copyrighting Vulcan ears? I can't think of a single fantasy setting that doesn't have something with elf ears. There's no way that's enforceable.
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    I realize the Axanar project is separate from CBS and everything before, but I fail to see why CBS doesn't just lend some money/support and reap some of the rewards? They can still say it's not cannon and has nothing to do with any Star Trek that's come before and is just a fan project. Why not work together if even a tiny bit behind the scenes?
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    Majestic Life's a garden. Dig it! Staff Member Administrator

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    Why can't they turn it into a one shot movie on the grounds they reep the profits. I am sure the Axanar producers would jump at that if CBS also covers all the court costs. Unlikely to happen though.
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    I just saw the trailer. Man it left me wanting to see more. I hope they keep doing the film
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    Or they could make small webisodes on yout as well. that would work with the agreement they have.

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