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Disney Buys Lucasfilm

Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by Adm_Z, 31 Oct 2012.

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Disney... Good for Star Wars or bad?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. K_merse

    K_merse Fleet Ops: Evolution Mod author Community Member

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    The best thing about Star Wars was that when something came out, you could be 100% sure, that it's Star Wars canon. Unlike in Star Trek, where the official canon ends with the films (minus JJ-verse) and the series. In Star Wars every movie, every series, every book, every comicbook, every game which was officially licensed by Lucasfilm was part of the chronological, technological, religious, etc. canon.

    Now this seems to change, because the rumors say that the next movie will be a somehow direct sequel to the Return of the Jedi. However, the events after the Battle of Endor were already written in everal books and comics! We know exactly what happens to the Republic, the Imperial Remnant and the Skywalker-Solo family in the next one hundred years! But if a new movie overwrites this, this beautiful canon will be ruined :(

    JJ Abrams already ruined Star Trek, now Disney wants to ruin Star Wars... I pray for another prequel trilogy, or a sequel on the distant future. Otherwise, I'm not sure if I'll ever watch it.
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    Definitely true enough.
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    Meh, I disagree. The comparison with Trek is obviously biased and unfair. Lucas himself has said that certain Expanded Universe content didn't exactly match his vision on how things turned out. The Yuzzhan Vong era was a wee bit too dark for example.

    SW canon (god I hate that word) ain't THAT perfect, to say otherwise would be rose-tinted naivete. Ever hear of the various retcons?

    "Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."
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    Hellkite Lord of Death Staff Member Administrator Seraphim build team

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    To be factual the only somewhat canon works were the books of Timothy Zahn's. The rest of the Star Wars Expanded Universe was never canonize by Lucas own words. This was never more evident than in the the prequels.
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    Majestic Life's a garden. Dig it! Staff Member Administrator

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    You know I do not know why people say JJ Abrams ruined Trek, it's in a separate timeline for heavens sake, it brought in a new generation of fans and that was the whole point. New times new ideas and changing times all play a big part. It wasn't solely done to get us who grew up with Shatner and Stewart but people who thought of Trek as old as their fathers or grandfathers show.

    For someone who grew up with it I really enjoyed it, they cast several of the roles brilliantly (Kirk, MCoy, Scotty for example) it was fun to watch and I went away thinking for a reboot this is pretty good while still keeping Shatners Kirk there in a parallel timeline.

    I wholeheartedly agree Jet, well said and great post.
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    What they both said....

    Actually this is not entirely accurate, what about the book that was written based on the Mandalorians, depicted them as a warrior culture, yet the cartoon series screwed all this up and made them out to be peaceful... You can see many such contradictions throughout SW movies etc so I wouldn't exactly say it was canon..

    As for Star Trek, alternate timelime, so I hardly think Trek was stuffed up, in fact it brought a much needed new audience to the scene and livened it up a bit, Star Trek was getting rather boring with pretty similar storylines happening over and over again, I for one and many of my friends were about ready to forgo Star Trek if they had done yet another repeat of past storylines.. Really enjoyed the twist that was added. I love the fresh new blood they brought in as actors, never liked the original kirk, too much of a show pony and womaniser but with pine in, makes it more interesting :p
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    You're wrong Katala. Even the cartoon is accurate. If you remember the episodes where the Mandos were involved, the main conflict there is exactly that a rebellious group wants to return to the original Mandalorian ways. it was a deliberate and carefully planned decision that Mandalore decided to become peaceful and neutral after the Jedi almost annihilated them twice, or maybe even more times. Everything what left from the old Mandalorian clan is a few individuals scattered in the galaxy, like Jango and Boba Fett, and those rebellious elements who try to follow their past.

    But you can bring up any question, I'll prove to you that it is canon :D
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    Majestic Life's a garden. Dig it! Staff Member Administrator

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    That's a bit of an arrogant attitude in regards to, "You're wrong Katala". Even Lucas himself said that the cartoon series has screwed with canon (especially in regards to the Mandalorians), he has even lost an author or two over it because of that. He has said that a revised history will have to be done after the series to try and fix the mistakes made in it. Especially in regards to the expanded universe. To be totally honest I hope Episode 7 doesn't follow the expanded universe, if it does, I hope it deals with Thawn and not the rest of it which isn't very good in my opinion.
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    Canon?

    IMO discussing canon for SW is like a loaded cannon ready to shoot, you don't wait in front of it but get the hell out of the way. Best not to go anywhere near a SW canon debate.
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    I'm following the news on Star Wars regularly but I never heard about that statement of Lucas.
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    I really appreciate the 4-5-6 series but the 1-2-3 episodes do not really caught my attention.

    How could Disney studio to revive the winning spirit from the Episode IV, creating a new film, or better said, their first Star Wars film series ?

    No matter how much digital technology would develop, they'll never reach that maximum performance which appeared for the first time in the Episode IV - A New Hope.

    If they still want to make a Star Wars movie, I recommend to make a movie based on the PC game Knights of the Old Republic, action that takes place thousands of years before the birth of Anakin Skywalker.
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    As we all here know, when Disney bought Lucasfilm, they threw a lot of fan favorite stories and characters out with the proverbial trash with the Legacy tag. They have been shifting through all of that material and picking and choosing what to include and what not to. They used Ben Skywalker......errr Solo in The Force Awakens. Well, there have been on particular fan favorite that many have been begging to have made canon but has not been......until now. Disney has said that if it was not seen on screen (movie or tv) then it is not canon. Well, with this upcoming season of Star Wars: Rebels, a new villain makes an appearance.

    Grand Admiral Thrawn.
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    Awesome! The Clone Wars and Rebels also make several references to KotOR 1 and 2 and a few other things. Rakata Prime is even on the official galaxy map!
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    Not going to lie, I got chills when Thrawn started speaking.
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    I started watching The Clone Wars a few days ago and Thrawn has seriously encouraged me to pick up the pace.
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    Good to see Thrawn reintroduced to the canon. I mean he was so pivotal in the post-Return of the Jedi canon, which we now call the "Legends" canon.
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    Oooh, now I'm even more hyped for more episodes of this show. :)

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