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Another shuttle damaged on liftoff.

CrazyFrog1903

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Another shuttle got damaged. This time by ice and not foam. When is the replacement suppose to arrive?

Here is the link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070811/ap_on_sc/space_shuttle

Here is a clip out of the article:

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA discovered a worrisome gouge on Endeavour's belly soon after the shuttle docked with the international space station Friday, possibly caused by ice that broke off the fuel tank a minute after liftoff.

The gouge — about 3 inches square — was spotted in zoom-in photography taken by the space station crew shortly before Endeavour delivered teacher-astronaut Barbara Morgan and her six crewmates to the orbiting outpost.

"What does this mean? I don't know at this point," said John Shannon, chairman of the mission management team. If the gouge is deep enough, the shuttle astronauts may have to patch it during a spacewalk, he said.

Columbia was destroyed during re-entry four years ago because of a hole in its wing, the result of a large chunk of foam insulation that broke off the external fuel tank and slammed into the wing at liftoff. Ice is heavier than foam, however, and would cause more damage to the thermal cover that protects the shuttle from the intense heat of re-entry at flight's end.

NASA was still rejoicing over the shuttle's arrival at the space station, and the grand entrance by Morgan, Christa McAuliffe's backup for Challenger's tragic mission in 1986, when engineers saw photos of the gouge.

On Sunday, the astronauts will inspect the area, using Endeavour's 100-foot robot arm and extension beam. Lasers on the end of the beam will gauge the exact size and depth of the gouge, Shannon said, and then engineering analyses will determine whether the damage is severe enough to warrant repairs. The astronauts got a chance to see the damage after Mission Control sent them pictures late Friday.

If the gouge is deemed serious and cannot be fixed, the shuttle astronauts would have to remain at the space station. They have more than two months of supplies with them, and a rescue shuttle could be launched by early October, Shannon said
 

Syf

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Now if those darn NASA "think they are smarter than me" Know-it-alls would have taken my suggestion on how to fix the shuttle problems to begin with, then there would not be a gouge!:x

I have one word for them... Idiots!

In case anyone wonders what that means, here is the simple and quick explanation. Back when the Columbia was destroyed, I sent NASA an email with a specific and easy fix to this problem of the tiles being damaged during launch. They dismissed it. If one thinks about it, the answer to preventing damage to the tiles is child's play.
 

CrazyFrog1903

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I find it amazing that its only now that they are having so many problems with the tiles. The timing is kind of interesting. One would think that if you wanted to get the public behind a new space vessel. You would first need to damage the reputation of an old one that everyone in the public thinks is good enough. hmmmmm.... Just a thought. Wonder how many shuttles they can park at the space station if to many get damaged.
 
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Tholian_Storm

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Wonder how many shuttles they can park at the space station if to many get damaged.

Let's see...

Carry the 9...

Add the square root of pi...

Subtract the hypoteneuse of a triangle...

Equals...

Too many.

I think its time to just go ahead and start work on the theory of "Orbital Torus Linkage" , aka RingWorld. Be a lot safer , but that's just me living in my fantasy world again.
 

F-Bobby

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hey Syf if ya don't mind me asking. What do you do for a living?
 
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TM150

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If I remember right he is something about games (don't know exactly what)

P.D: Sorry for answer :oops:
 

Syf

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Well, I manage people at this present time (out here in smallville...lol). I am a qualified Networking Specialist, along with being a computer tech. Science(s) was my major in school (except, I never got into biology). The state of Oklahoma recommended that I get into aeronautical engineering (long story there), but I haven't had the time to go get my PhD. Oh, and I am in the process of becoming a Game Dev. so I can kick back and relax while working.

And what I suggested to NASA was compound to make an "egg-like" shell covering the outer foam. Thin, lightweight, strong as steel, and would not interfer with the thermal protection of the foam. Since it's just on the tank, it is not be used for the shuttle, just a coating over the foam. But this would cost maybe an extra $0.1m to $0.5 million per tank. Just depends on who applied it to the tank and what they charged. And also it would lower the overall cargo capacity of the shuttle's load by (less than) a ton. Oh, and the compound it readily available at a hardware store. Though they could refine it a bit for aerospace use.

I think your right Cfrog, I think they want to force a replacement for the Shuttle. They had a promising one (Venture Star), before congress pulled the funding.
 

F-Bobby

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ahh very cool. I had a feeling you had some kind of engineering background. guess i wasnt too far off.
 
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