A Different Design

[Katala]

Ooo thats lookin really good

 

[SciFiFan]

Thanks mate!

here's a little update.

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That is a sweet design. Any chance you make a lower poly version for A2?

 

[thunderfoot]

Ya know, it is a real treat to see Herr FahreS design something. I am a long time fan of all his work and always greedy to get more of it. It sometimes makes me scratch my head trying figure out what he is up to, but it never fails to make me go "Ooooh!"

About those nacelles. Maybe this will explain some things. It is my interpretation but perhaps he will be kind enough to allow me to share it.

'Near the end of the 24th Century, Federation research teams made significant advances in the fields of metallurgy and warp technology. New manufacturing techniques for warp coils, coupled with better warp field control software and faster more efficent computers, allowed Federation engine builders to reduce the size and number of warp coils required to move a starship faster than sluggard Light. This in turn influenced the design of starships by allowing shipwrights to utilize interior space required by engines previously for additional crew spaces and larger more efficent ship systems. As an example, when the Galaxy class was first proposed as a complete design to Starfleet's BuShips Committee, it was viewed as almost a luxury liner due to the large amount of interior space allocated for crew and their families. Less than a century later, the same class of ship was seen as similar to a slave rowed Roman Trireme galley compared to the latest designs.'

 

[FahreS]

Ooo thats lookin really good

Thank you!

That is a sweet design. Any chance you make a lower poly version for A2?

Chances are bad, because ive modelled so many details, that a port would require a complete recreation.
But then it wasnt planned to convert the voyager, but i did convert her

Ya know, it is a real treat to see Herr FahreS design something. I am a long time fan of all his work and always greedy to get more of it. It sometimes makes me scratch my head trying figure out what he is up to, but it never fails to make me go "Ooooh!"

About those nacelles. Maybe this will explain some things. It is my interpretation but perhaps he will be kind enough to allow me to share it.

'Near the end of the 24th Century, Federation research teams made significant advances in the fields of metallurgy and warp technology. New manufacturing techniques for warp coils, coupled with better warp field control software and faster more efficent computers, allowed Federation engine builders to reduce the size and number of warp coils required to move a starship faster than sluggard Light. This in turn influenced the design of starships by allowing shipwrights to utilize interior space required by engines previously for additional crew spaces and larger more efficent ship systems. As an example, when the Galaxy class was first proposed as a complete design to Starfleet's BuShips Committee, it was viewed as almost a luxury liner due to the large amount of interior space allocated for crew and their families. Less than a century later, the same class of ship was seen as similar to a slave rowed Roman Trireme galley compared to the latest designs.'

Actually, this is pretty nice. I may post this in the ship's decription, if im allowed to?
Thank you


So not much here, but enough to post!

of course ill include break nodes and i had some special ideas for the engines.
The next pictures show the ship when both engines, the bridge and the torpedo platforms are destroyed

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And - this may not be a surprise to you, i believe you had already thought that it would come to this - no captains yacht without interior!

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[FahreS]

A lil' update:

The captain's yacht is done!

But before you have a look at the pictures, a registry question:
What do you think of registries with 5 cyphers (like the intrepid's registry) and beginning with 9?
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9XXXX

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And here we have an ingame test with accurate scaling!

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[SciFiFan]

Awesome job. I am curious as to how the ship would look with the pylons with a reverse sweep (sweep towards the front).

 

[Borg_Queen]

Awesome work, FahreS.

 

[Syf]

That is a nice looking ship. I have to say, it looks better then I originally thought even. 3 thumbs up.

 

[Majestic]

Indeed an outstanding design Fahres, you've certainly outdone yourself on this one.

 

[Jetfreak]

Wow, the detail on the shuttle alone is awesomesauce.

If ported, this would make a great BC addon. Recently, they had managed to place the command center in a shuttle. Allowing you to fly it directly, and the windows are transparent too.

Looking forward on the finished product.

btw, if you want some name choices, try "Directrix"

 

[Katala]

they look really good FahreS, full of l33tness!

 

[FahreS]

wow you guys do surprise me, heres much more going on than on legacyfiles!

But still nobody did comment on the registry number!!^^

Awesome job. I am curious as to how the ship would look with the pylons with a reverse sweep (sweep towards the front).

Ah, itll look bad

Awesome work, FahreS.

That is a nice looking ship. I have to say, it looks better then I originally thought even. 3 thumbs up.

Indeed an outstanding design Fahres, you've certainly outdone yourself on this one.

they look really good FahreS, full of l33tness!

Thank you all a lot!

Wow, the detail on the shuttle alone is awesomesauce.

If ported, this would make a great BC addon. Recently, they had managed to place the command center in a shuttle. Allowing you to fly it directly, and the windows are transparent too.

Looking forward on the finished product.

btw, if you want some name choices, try "Directrix"

Thanks Jet! Ive seen that intrepid mod for bc with captain's yacht. Would be cool if that were possible in legacy...
But dont expect this ship for BC, i dont have that game and so cant create mods for that.

 

[Majestic]

wow you guys do surprise me, heres much more going on than on legacyfiles!

But still nobody did comment on the registry number!!^^

I can't speak for everyone else but I didn't pick up on it.

Is there a reason behind that or just artistic block?

 

[FahreS]

I can't speak for everyone else but I didn't pick up on it.

Is there a reason behind that or just artistic block?

The amount of cyphers is taken from the intrepid class. The 9 should show that this ship is newer than the intrepid.
But i know that here are persons who know more about registries than i know, thats why i ask.

And i need your opinions again
Should there be a registry
USS Voyager NCC-74656-A
?
Or would that be too much?

 

[Lord_Trekie]

Typically any craft, Captain's Yacht, Shuttle, etc... would share the registry number of the ship it's attached to, and I think a 5 digit registry number is appropriate, I myself tend to shy away from the 9 series in my own works, but that's mainly because of the timeframe I'm working with, so I guess it depends on when in the Star Trek timeline your ship came to be? I could easily see if having a 9XXXX series number if it was constructed/conceived in the 2390's 2400's...

 

[Majestic]

And i need your opinions again
Should there be a registry
USS Voyager NCC-74656-A
?
Or would that be too much?

I think it would be very appropriate.

 

[Jetfreak]

Sorry, but I just don't see her being Voyager-A.

Giving her that name is unimaginative at best and feels very forced. She may resemble Voyager a lot but I just don't see it happening.

An all new name would be better seeing as this is supposed to be an Intrepid derivative.

 

[SciFiFan]

And i need your opinions again
Should there be a registry
USS Voyager NCC-74656-A
?
Or would that be too much?

Another option would be giving her (a new Voyager) a different, yet similar registry. (e.g. NCC-97465) That way she has a registry that matches the time frame yet pays homage to the current Voyager.
The one thing I have always found odd in Star Trek, is that in the 200+ years of the Trek time line, Enterprise is the only ship to keep its registry.

Sorry, but I just don't see her being Voyager-A.

Giving her that name is unimaginative at best and feels very forced. She may resemble Voyager a lot but I just don't see it happening.

An all new name would be better seeing as this is supposed to be an Intrepid derivative.

In my opinion, she is not really an Intrepid derivative but, an Intrepid evolution. Of course it is all open to interpretation, or what the creator says it is.

 

[thunderfoot]

Name her whatever you want to name her. Use whatever registry you'd like. Someone somewhere will not like whatever name and registry you give her anyway for any number of reasons. If we do not like her name and registry, we'll change them around to suit ourselves. If you make her available for A2 D/L I'm going to name her...

USS FahreS NX - 100001​

Why? Because I'm a modder and we do this sort of stuff all the time. Ta DA!

 

[SciFiFan]

Name her whatever you want to name her. Use whatever registry you'd like. Someone somewhere will not like whatever name and registry you give her anyway for any number of reasons. If we do not like her name and registry, we'll change them around to suit ourselves. If you make her available for A2 D/L I'm going to name her...

USS FahreS NX - 100001​

Why? Because I'm a modder and we do this sort of stuff all the time. Ta DA!

Well said!

PS: Love you signature

 

[Katala]

You should name your ship whatever you wish, it's your ship and you can do what you like with it regardless of what other people think, everyone has their own opinions but you shouldnt let the anyone disuade you from what you want to do just because they dont like it

In my opinion I rather like the name you have chosen



I too love your signature Thunderfoot! looks awesome, made me have a little laugh when I read it lol

 

[FahreS]

w00tw00tw00t, so many comments while on legacyfiles nothing is going on^^

Typically any craft, Captain's Yacht, Shuttle, etc... would share the registry number of the ship it's attached to, and I think a 5 digit registry number is appropriate, I myself tend to shy away from the 9 series in my own works, but that's mainly because of the timeframe I'm working with, so I guess it depends on when in the Star Trek timeline your ship came to be? I could easily see if having a 9XXXX series number if it was constructed/conceived in the 2390's 2400's...

Thank you, that was very helpful!

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I dont know if you know^^ but in legacy ive the option to give the ship class a name and to include 4 (and more) registries.
Which means that you would see the Voyager registry only sometimes on the ship.

Currently i have none of the required 5 names, but ill do my best to find good ones

Sorry, but I just don't see her being Voyager-A.

Giving her that name is unimaginative at best and feels very forced. She may resemble Voyager a lot but I just don't see it happening.

An all new name would be better seeing as this is supposed to be an Intrepid derivative.

I wont call it intrepid class II or something xD, but aint the enterprises derivatives too?

Another option would be giving her (a new Voyager) a different, yet similar registry. (e.g. NCC-97465) That way she has a registry that matches the time frame yet pays homage to the current Voyager.
The one thing I have always found odd in Star Trek, is that in the 200+ years of the Trek time line, Enterprise is the only ship to keep its registry.

In my opinion, she is not really an Intrepid derivative but, an Intrepid evolution. Of course it is all open to interpretation, or what the creator says it is.

nice idea, and i like the description "intrepid evolution" better xD

Name her whatever you want to name her. Use whatever registry you'd like. Someone somewhere will not like whatever name and registry you give her anyway for any number of reasons. If we do not like her name and registry, we'll change them around to suit ourselves. If you make her available for A2 D/L I'm going to name her...

USS FahreS NX - 100001​

Why? Because I'm a modder and we do this sort of stuff all the time. Ta DA!

haha, lol, lmao, i believe i have to submit this ship for a2 just to see that happening xD

You should name your ship whatever you wish, it's your ship and you can do what you like with it regardless of what other people think, everyone has their own opinions but you shouldnt let the anyone disuade you from what you want to do just because they dont like it

Thanks, but i just ask, because i personally am not sure if i like the 74656-A or not xD

In my opinion I rather like the name you have chosen

I think it would be very appropriate.

so two like the idea, one not?
maybe you think again, now that youve heard of the 4 registries option?

 

[StarBlade]

More than one registry is always a preferred option.

Besides which, the whole Voyager-A concept might be a good one, but for all we know Voyager remained in service another fifteen years. If nothing in the Delta Quadrant killed it, nothing in the Alpha Quadrant's going to stop it either....

I can see how you'd want to make this Voyager-based, but there's no need. I say give it a separate registry and identity entirely its own. I personally hate Voyager, and anything affiliated with it, I tend to avoid. So if I didn't know this was a FahreS design I'd say 'no' to it based on Janeway and Neelix rather than on the merits of the design itself.

Further to Thunderfoot's point, I'd also code a USS FahreS if this one were available for A2 --I'd have to take the name out of my Achilles class .ODF (since all ships of that class in my personal build are named for modders, and seeing USS Payne, USS Jetfreak, USS FahreS and USS Avon in formation together ingame is something else to behold) but I would definitely welcome a ship of this quality, with its distinctly post-Nemesis design. It'd look really good being escorted by a formation of Courageous class and Planck class vessels.... PotD idea!

Although to be serious, I'd like to recommend the name Cygnus class for this design. Something about the overall shape of it looks very swan-like to me and the elegance of this vessel is understated yet visibly appreciable.

They just keep getting better, FahreS. I can't wait to see the final product.

 

[Borg_Queen]

Besides which, the whole Voyager-A concept might be a good one, but for all we know Voyager remained in service another fifteen years. If nothing in the Delta Quadrant killed it, nothing in the Alpha Quadrant's going to stop it either....

Well, remember that the Enterprise-D survived Borg attacks, but were destroyed by Klingons. So who knows, something in the Alpha Quadrant can maybe destroy Voyager.

Anyway, I don't mind if that ship to FahreS is called after Voyager, even though the other suggestions in this thread is also good.

 

[Katala]

Well, remember that the Enterprise-D survived Borg attacks, but were destroyed by Klingons. So who knows, something in the Alpha Quadrant can maybe destroy Voyager.

Anyway, I don't mind if that ship to FahreS is called after Voyager, even though the other suggestions in this thread is also good.

I agree, Voyager has also always been my personal favourite, even when watching all the series Voyager was my number one favourite on top of the others, as I know it is also Majestics favourite series in my eyes the ship has a really nice sleek look thats totally different to the others that I find more appealing

 

[Jetfreak]

but aint the enterprises derivatives too?

lol, not all all. That's called "ships of the line" or "lineage" so to speak.

Here's a couple of class name and ship name suggestions, take your pick Herr Fahres.

- Directrix
- Apalis
- Delphinus
- Erne
- Asterozoa
- Ravia
- Sepia
- Lapata
- Geopelia
- Orcinus
- Wyvern
- Skyskimmer

Others are free to suggest too, like SFK's "Cygnus Class". If possible, a poll as well.

I'd have to take the name out of my Achilles class .ODF (since all ships of that class in my personal build are named for modders, and seeing USS Payne, USS Jetfreak, USS FahreS and USS Avon in formation together ingame is something else to behold)

Now THIS was unexpected and truly a fine sample of lulz.

*must resist urge to integrate modder names*

 

[Majestic]

Why not have a few names for it, with the Voyager-A being in there, several registries plus a template should make all happy if you are inclined to go that far Fahres.

But either way I look forward to it and will have to get the PC version of Legacy sometime in the future if only for this ship.

 

[StarBlade]

*must resist urge to integrate modder names*

Resistance is futile....

As it is, the Achilles class starship is so overpowered in my game (with pulse phasers AND quantums) that I only let myself use them six at a time with escorts, like proper ships of the line, so it makes the "mod team" formations that much more enjoyable. And it holds my interest late in the game when things are pretty much decided except for the last few turrets and cloaked units--darn, the USS Moerman needs repairs! Better send it home and have USS Merse move up to take its place in formation! And so on.

 

[FahreS]

More than one registry is always a preferred option.

I can see how you'd want to make this Voyager-based, but there's no need. I say give it a separate registry and identity entirely its own. I personally hate Voyager, and anything affiliated with it, I tend to avoid. So if I didn't know this was a FahreS design I'd say 'no' to it based on Janeway and Neelix rather than on the merits of the design itself.

Although to be serious, I'd like to recommend the name Cygnus class for this design. Something about the overall shape of it looks very swan-like to me and the elegance of this vessel is understated yet visibly appreciable.

They just keep getting better, FahreS. I can't wait to see the final product.

Thanks, i understand that you hate Neelix^^ but i did like Voyager anyhow
also thanks for the name suggestion, that word does sound pretty nice, but from my viewpoint swan doesnt.

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Besides which, the whole Voyager-A concept might be a good one, but for all we know Voyager remained in service another fifteen years. If nothing in the Delta Quadrant killed it, nothing in the Alpha Quadrant's going to stop it either....

Well, remember that the Enterprise-D survived Borg attacks, but were destroyed by Klingons. So who knows, something in the Alpha Quadrant can maybe destroy Voyager.

Anyway, I don't mind if that ship to FahreS is called after Voyager, even though the other suggestions in this thread is also good.

Janeway is an admiral, dont think that the voyager can stand a fight without her

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I agree, Voyager has also always been my personal favourite, even when watching all the series Voyager was my number one favourite on top of the others, as I know it is also Majestics favourite series in my eyes the ship has a really nice sleek look thats totally different to the others that I find more appealing

Ah! someone who is of my opinion on the voyager series xD

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lol, not all all. That's called "ships of the line" or "lineage" so to speak.

Here's a couple of class name and ship name suggestions, take your pick Herr Fahres.

- Directrix
- Apalis
- Delphinus
- Erne
- Asterozoa
- Ravia
- Sepia
- Lapata
- Geopelia
- Orcinus
- Wyvern
- Skyskimmer

Others are free to suggest too, like SFK's "Cygnus Class". If possible, a poll as well.

lol after thunderfoot, now you do start calling me Herr Fahres, Mr. Jetfreak?^^
Thanks for the name suggestions, Though i still hope to find one by myself xD

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Why not have a few names for it, with the Voyager-A being in there, several registries plus a template should make all happy if you are inclined to go that far Fahres.

But either way I look forward to it and will have to get the PC version of Legacy sometime in the future if only for this ship.

Thank you, and this ship will definitely have different registries, but maybe not Voyager. Am still not sure...

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Further to Thunderfoot's point, I'd also code a USS FahreS if this one were available for A2 --I'd have to take the name out of my Achilles class .ODF (since all ships of that class in my personal build are named for modders, and seeing USS Payne, USS Jetfreak, USS FahreS and USS Avon in formation together ingame is something else to behold) but I would definitely welcome a ship of this quality, with its distinctly post-Nemesis design. It'd look really good being escorted by a formation of Courageous class and Planck class vessels.... PotD idea!

Now THIS was unexpected and truly a fine sample of lulz.

*must resist urge to integrate modder names*

Resistance is futile....

As it is, the Achilles class starship is so overpowered in my game (with pulse phasers AND quantums) that I only let myself use them six at a time with escorts, like proper ships of the line, so it makes the "mod team" formations that much more enjoyable. And it holds my interest late in the game when things are pretty much decided except for the last few turrets and cloaked units--darn, the USS Moerman needs repairs! Better send it home and have USS Merse move up to take its place in formation! And so on.

Wow thats one of the greatest ideas ive ever heard, and i feel kind of honoured xD
very, very funny idea

 

[thunderfoot]

Some more naming suggestions for the new class.

Birds
Gyrfalcon class
Comorant class
Merlyn class(Not King Arthur's mage. The small very fast falcon used by nobles in the Middle ages for falconry.)

Weapons
Rapier class
Nagainata class
Kensai class (literal translation from Japanese is 'Sword Saint')

Scientists
Tesla class
Eisenberg class
Galileo class
Fermi class
Darwin class
Von Braun class (Without Werner, there would be no NASA.)
Pasteur class
Curie class
Bohr class
Marconi class

Famous people whom have contributed to the betterment of the human race in general.
Gandi class (not sure on the spelling)
Luther class
Gutenberg class
Kung Fu Tzu class (normally Latinized to Confucius)
Wright class
Cousteau class
Gorbachev class
Les Paul class (Creator of the electric guitar. Rock on, Dude!)

Feel free to use any of these or none of them as you wish. After all it is your ship and you should do what pleases you first and foremost. Oh, BTW, it was difficult to create this list whist keeping the US or American references to a minimum, lol. There are far too many of those already available.