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[Request] Ship Request Thread

kjc733

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No need to feel awkward, we all started somewhere.

As for the ID D4... nope, never even crossed my mind, mostly because I don't like the design (the alternative version was far better).

Looking at it now I can say that the segmented design does not lend itself to the low poly meshes you see in A2. Even though PCs are a lot better now than when A2 was released, if you want to spam a lot of them then you really do need to keep the poly count down. As an idea, I try to keep A2 meshes below 3k polygons where possible. For spammable fighters, 100s of polys is preferable. Now it might be possible to do the D4 for a couple of thousand with the careful use of textures, but it's not one I'll be attempting.
If you're a total "noob" and have no idea what a poly is, it's short for polygon. If you imagine breaking down the design into a shape made of triangles, each triangle would be one polygon. If you look at the runabout images posted above, you'll notice some flat parts on the nacelles. That area is made of very few triangles. The more detailed and/or curved you want the mesh to be, the more you need to break the mesh down into smaller and smaller triangles and hence the higher the polygon count.

Which reminds me - HK, my apologies. Between breaking in a new PC, getting the Seeker printed and doing a practice run for commissions I have completely forgotten about that runabout. I'll try to spend some time on it soon.
 

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No worries Kjc
 
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No need to feel awkward, we all started somewhere.

As for the ID D4... nope, never even crossed my mind, mostly because I don't like the design (the alternative version was far better).

Tnx, kjc733, there are many things about abramsverse that i don't like but D4 patrol bird of prey is not one of them :) and, star trek series gave us a low amount of klingon small craft and i like somewhat authentic ships in my Armad 2 mod. Most of the fighters i use are those from series and movies- romulan scorpion fighter, peregrine, danube, small rescaled hideki etc... for klingons i use dagger class fighter, for dominion scout ship from ultimate dominion(unfortunately, there is no jem hadar fighter from STO available anywhere= and for breen i use rescaled brcruise2 from ultimate dominion/breen mod to act as bleth choas fighter from STO. Well, i know it sound strange but i really like fighters and to be as close to the canon as possible. I don't know is STO canon but it is close enough for me :D
 
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Spent a bit of time on Hellkites runabout today. Images attached. Low poly version is 1046 polygons.
Out of curiosity I also smoothed it out a bit - I may have to do a proper HP version at some point because I'm liking that a lot!
(Obviously I haven't properly built or textured the HP version, so there are a lot of errors on it).
 

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Beautiful work KJC.
 

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(unfortunately, there is no jem hadar fighter from STO available anywhere= and for breen i use rescaled brcruise2 from ultimate dominion/breen mod to act as bleth choas fighter from STO. Well, i know it sound strange but i really like fighters and to be as close to the canon as possible. I don't know is STO canon but it is close enough for me :D

"STO is not cannon " Thank the gods above and below for that

as to Dominion Fighters
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as to Breen Fighters


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I even have a Dominion Bomber if you need on Dominion Bomber.png
 
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Omg, i like all of them, especially Breen fighter :D how do i get them? :D
 

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They would need to be requested here and have some one make them
 

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Be warned, the Romulan Star Empire of the 2270's may or may not have a new weapon.
 

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I've just uploaded the Tempest. As I have yet to find time to reinstall A2 I have only uploaded the basic .ms3d and .obj mesh and textures. Some work will be required if anyone wants to use it in A2.
 

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Has anyone had a go at creating the USS Discovery and Shenzhou from STD yet? I thought they were both pretty ugly or too advanced looking at first, but now they have both grown on me a bit.
 

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Has anyone had a go at creating the USS Discovery and Shenzhou from STD yet? I thought they were both pretty ugly or too advanced looking at first, but now they have both grown on me a bit.
I'm trying to create the T'Plana Hath
 

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Has anyone had a go at creating the USS Discovery and Shenzhou from STD yet? I thought they were both pretty ugly or too advanced looking at first, but now they have both grown on me a bit.
I felt like Shenzhou's biggest problem was that it looked too much like an ENT ship, but I'm letting that slide since it's supposed to be old. With Discovery I feel like just putting the nacelles on top of the wings rather than on the ends and/or making the body not be wider than the saucer would go a long way. Basically, it's almost good, but not quite, and that bugs me. Both ships could also do with cylindrical nacelles.

I'm trying to create the T'Plana Hath
The Vulcan ship from First Contact?
 

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I felt like Shenzhou's biggest problem was that it looked too much like an ENT ship, but I'm letting that slide since it's supposed to be old. With Discovery I feel like just putting the nacelles on top of the wings rather than on the ends and/or making the body not be wider than the saucer would go a long way. Basically, it's almost good, but not quite, and that bugs me. Both ships could also do with cylindrical nacelles.


The Vulcan ship from First Contact?

I like this fan's TOSized version of the Discovery.

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I like this fan's TOSized version of the Discovery.
That's pretty much exactly what I want! Just make the nacelles round and move them up and in a bit and the ship looks so much better. I really like the one in the bottom left of the first pic.
 

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Imma leave this here.

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Unlike CABAL, I actually think that the Shenzhou doesn't look too old, I think it looks too advanced for the era. But I agree that it has to do with the engines, they need to be cylindrical TOS-style.

And yeah I will double down on ScifiFan's opinion. This is what the Discovery should have looked like:

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Just saying...
 

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Unlike CABAL, I actually think that the Shenzhou doesn't look too old, I think it looks too advanced for the era.
Well, ENT also looked too advanced for the time period, especially the Romulan BoPs. I'm saying that if Shenzhou is an ENT-era ship then it makes some sense that it look like the others, even if the others looked too new.

Imma leave this here.
I'm actually not a fan of those pylons. I feel like they're too vertical. I do like that the body has some bulk, though, instead of being a flat box; that's very nice.
 

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I stand corrected sir, of course I agree with you that the ships in ENT looked far more advanced than TOS and maybe TMP.

The pylon can be tweaked, but you gotta admit that at least this version of the Discovery looks TOS-y.
 

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I agree the ship looks more TOS, although the saucer of this version resembles the Excelsior.
 

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I agree the ship looks more TOS, although the saucer of this version resembles the Excelsior.
The Discovery is a newer class of ship than the Constitution-class, so giving it a slightly TMP look makes some sense to me.
 

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The Discovery is a newer class of ship than the Constitution-class, so giving it a slightly TMP look makes some sense to me.

Except the registry is too low.

I do like MKF's design goes to show fans can do better when they don't have clueless CBS execs making the decisions that Doug Dexler and John Eaves and co are forced to work under.
 

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Except the registry is too low.
Yeah... Like I said in the other thread, the only thing I've got is that they may have recycled the 10XX series registries when the first class using them went out of service, but that's reaching. Or, now that I think about it, it could be a form of counter-intelligence and they're trying to make the ship look less important in reports by making it appear to be something hopelessly outdated. Still reaching, but the ship seems to be doing black ops so it's a little more plausible.
 

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Still reaching, but the ship seems to be doing black ops so it's a little more plausible.

I like that idea, I might adopt that to make STD more watchable. :)
 
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